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i dont really pay attention to ratings because i just started but i gave someone a detailed answer and he gave me a 3. its not so much his rating its his comment:
Thank you for your answer. I would give you a 4 but you didn't capitalize. Otherwise it was a good answer.
what does capitalizing have to do with anything?
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When you don't punctuate or capitalize things, people have trouble reading it. They might rate you lower for this because they don't understand what you said. And I'm dead serious. There have been many times where I've had to rate someone lower because I had absolutely NO idea what they meant, and after I read it about 100 times, I finally understood.
Maybe if you punctuated people would be able to read your answers, and it'd actually help them. So just do yourself a favor and punctuate so people can actually read it. You'll probably get a better rating anyways.
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Any question asked is a "real" question. Durr. =D
You've gotten plenty of good answers and basically by advice is the same as everyone else's. Don't worry about it. A 3 is decent. If you feel it's neccessary, file an abuse report and maybe a moderator feels the same as you and will change your rating.
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This sight is called Advicenators for a reason. If it was Grammar-nators I could understand his response. I think your answer should be judged on its quality, however if a response is poorly typed then the advice may look unprofessional. Not that any of us here are professionals or anything.
Good Luck<3
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i don't care when someone doesn't use capitalization or punctuation as long as they use periods. but i think people should stop complaining about the advice given to them, what about the questions? half of them are written so badly you can't tell what they're asking or even what they're talking about!
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Capitalization may make it easier to read i guess, but I would think punctuation would be a little more important. Thats not a good reason to give a lower rating if the advice was good.
Neatness is important, but if it's at least readable then theres no reason for a bad rating.
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it could it could make it easier to read but i think you just didnt give him what he wanted to hear so thas why he gave you a 3.
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I think using proper capitalization and grammar makes your advice easier to read, understand, and it looks better.
However, that reason (in my opinion) isnt a good one. Capitalization isn't really a big deal, as long as its easy to read and everything.
He could be one of those picky people or just whatever. I wouldnt worry to much about it. If your other ratings are good, just keep doing the same things.
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Wow, give someone a very tiny bit of power and they overestimate themselves and why they have it.
I guess it goes with the territory, and happens to everyone, so don't sweat it. There is often an idiot questioner among the others asking about white balloon prices or some other silly nonsense and will give a three to feel empowered.
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Although I agree with what most people have said here about being neat and not making any errors and such I have to say that picking on little things like capitalizing is just petty. People come here for advice and people deliver that advice out of their own time. I personally don't come here to have the way I write critisized or corrected. I use a laptop presently and typing on this is extremely hard (especially since I type fast) so I make a good few errors along the way be it spelling or spaces missing in between words. If I pick up on them I correct them but as long as what I've written gets across to the other person clearly I don't think of it as a major issue. Obviously typing in some slang or writing in very bad grammer makes it very hard to read (all caps is also annoying on the eyes) but otherwise I think the capitalize thing is just being picky.
I do find it ironic that some people have the time to critisize the advice their getting, after someone may have gone through the trouble of looking up what they asked for, especially when most of the time they could have found the answer their looking for themselves just by opening a page on google and taking the time to search themselves.
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One of the biggest problems is that 3 is seen as a bad rating, when really it isn't one. Sure, it's not outstanding, but it's a solid rating for a solid answer.
It's harsh, but I think that someone who won't type with proper grammar and capitalisation (aside from the occasional error) should rarely, if ever, receive above a 4 rating. Fours and fives should be reserved for outstanding advice--advice worth showcasing. Poorly worded responses with clear grammatical flaws are more difficult to understand, and quite frankly, don't show much respect to the user posing the question. I feel the same way about those asking questions, actually--I'm much more likely to respond to one with proper grammar, punctuation, etc. because it tells me that the person actually cares enough to make it readable.
I see no problem with a rating partially based on proper English mechanics.
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Well, proper capitalization, spelling, and grammar is what makes this site look more professional and presentable, as others have said. You also seem more trustworthy, I think, than "ritin lik3 dis althe time." You seem more responsible and knowledgable if you take the time to write correctly.
I used to write in uncapitalized letters all the time. Its only a couple months ago that I started writing properly in giving and asking for advice. I actually now feel a bit more confident in giving my advice because I feel more convincing if I write like an adult would.
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you should file an abuse report, because that's a really stupid reason. he even said that he would've given you higher. it's not right when people pull stuff like that. i never capitalize, and i give great answers. ratings are important, and if they rate based on that, then they don't take it seriously enough.
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I can understand someone giving a lower rating if the person spelled everything wrong or did that every-other-letter-is-capitalized thing, because those are distracting. But his reason sounds really bad. I definitely definitely disagree with him.
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i got one of those to
they were like are youu 13 bcuz u have to be that old
i was wtf
people are losers get over it
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I think everyone would rather read a properly written response then one that is incorrect, but I don't think that's what people should base ratings upon. It's about the advice, and the ability to understand the advice. So if your mistakes didn't make your advice illegible, then I think that rating was unfair. But just to be safe from now on, I'd suggest to try to always use proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling.
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It does make a big difference. The minute I see a response typed in all capitals, with no capitalization, or with serious spelling errors, I discount the advice being given, because I assume that it is from 'just some dumb teenager', who won't understand my issues. I know, sounds stupid, because I'm still a teenager myself (19).
It might not have been right to rate you down if your advice was good... but some of us find it harder to read typing that isn't properly punctuated, myself included.
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It sounds like this person is a jerk or was being one to say the least about them. If you feel he/she rated you unfairly which they of course did the best thing to do is file an abuse report and let a moderator handle things and bump your rating up.
So what if you didn't capitalize something. It happens to all of us who write e-mails, forum postings etc. or type fast. That's normal. I can understand though if it were riddled with mistakes, grammar errors and or Internet lingo like bff etc. making it harder to read.
The bottom line is you need to fill out an abuse report with the link to the question and as much other details you can give and allow a L2 moderator to check it out and bump the rating to a 5 if they feel it deserves it.
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Personally, I always make a big effort to use correct punctuation, spelling and grammar. This is partially because it's just the way I've been brought up, partially because I want to be a writer (sloppy spelling does not go down too well in that line of work) and partially because I do think it's good to present yourself well.
I'm not saying that forgetting to capitalize makes you unintelligent or incapable of answering questions, those suffering from disabilities such as Dyslexia often find it difficult to use correct spelling/grammar etc but it doesn't make them stupid.
If your answer was good, then of course the fact that you didn't capitalize shouldn't have such a big impact on your rating but the way I see it, if you can, then you should.
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That happened to me just the other day! but the person said, "I would have given you a 5, if you would have capitalized your one 'I'" I captilized everything else, and i forget the one I. and they like freaked out. and i gave really good advice too! i know, i don't think capitalizing really, has too much to do with it either. but some people in this world, except every one to talk perfectly. the only time i would ever rate anyone down is if they talked in all caps, or they talked like.. omg like i think ya should like idk mayb. ha you get it.
but i know, its annoying.
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Perhaps its an age thing, although I can't say that I researched this or anything, but I also think its important to present the answer properly.
Whether or not I would rate down an answer that was not capitalised would really depend on how much it annoyed me. Certainly, as others have written below, chat speak type answers are really, really irritating.
In the end it takes so little effort to write decently. No one expects that there shouldn't be a single spelling error (I am sure I made one or two in this answer myself), just that the answer can pass as real English.
It is also a great way to practice how to write and communicate properly. People (generally those that have been here a few years) want this site to look presentable, and to have answers that one can in good conscience archive and retrieve later.
Thats my two cents anyway :)
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i don't capitalize. it's not a big deal really. but some people are grammar freaks and correct you if you do something wrong. my grandma is like that. it really shouldn't affect your rating, but like another person said, file an abuse report. (:
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That happens to me a lot. I don't know why he said you didn't capitalize and why even if you did, you did not deserve a 5 instead. Maybe your answer was detailed but did not help him because maybe he did not provide enough information about his problem to be helped.
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if you don't think it's right, file an abuse report :) [Link](Mouse over link to see full location) MAKE SURE you send the URL of the page that the question is on... and only send it once. if the administrators think that your rating was unfair, then they'll change it :) hope i helped! ♥
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Well if it's something on thsi site I don't really think ti matters unless you're applying for a job or something to show your skills or else it's just liek trying to be funny and being humourous.
That person really cares about spelling then..or else maybe he didn't really like your answer and made up the thing about capitalizing instead?
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Proper spelling, punctuation, grammar, etc are how you present yourself.
If you type as you would for, say, a thesis, you present yourself as someone who really cares about this site and it's appearance.
If you type how you would while, say, text messaging, for example, you come off as being someone who only half-assed cares, because you give half-assed answers. Detailed or not.
Personally? If I would have asked a question and got an answer such as you are refering to, I would have rated down as well.
Why you ask? Because why on God's green Earth should I take someone's advice seriously when they obviously don't take my question seriously enough to only give me a half-assed answer?
Proper spelling, punctuation, capitalization, grammar, etc (or lack of) show intelligence, weather you like that fact or not.
So, now, how do you REALLY want to present yourself to others? If you want to be taken seriously, you need to present yourself accordingly.
ygs-29/f
By the way, younggrandma cares A LOT about this site! She has been here quite a spell, and dedicates a lot of time and effort into doing her part to make this a great place.
She is NOT trying to be funny, or piss people off. She is trying to TEACH you something. You should listen to her, rather than wasting energy criticizing her.
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Im going to have to say i am look that. Not the capitalization, but the writing in general. The sentences need to make sense. There needs to be spacing after periods. Words need to be spelled correctly... I could go on and on.
I will comment when Im giving advice on a person's question if I had to struggle for it to mke sense.
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Good grammar is easier to read & it doesn't give you a headache. When typing in all lowercases you can still read it, but it's harder & it takes a little longer.
All in all, it just looks better & says something about you as a person. Lowercases can make someone think you're lazy & sloppy. But type with the proper grammar & punctuation makes you seem as if you take your time & you like things to be neat. There's nothing wrong with lowercases [I use them on my column in my little About Me thing] but put the proper punctuation in.
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I don't think puncuation and stuff should have anything to do with a response. It shouldn't be about how the answer looks but the quality of the answer.
Personally, I think it's easier to read with proper puncation, spelling etc but thats just me. Without it I just find myself reading the answer over and over again until I fully understand the response.
Everyone is different though.
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Here's part of an answer by ammo( [Link](Mouse over link to see full location) ), without proper capitalization:
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to be honest there's not really going to be anything you or your boyfriend can if your moms answer is a straight no - the kind that won't change no matter what. the thing with trust is that it's very easy to lose but one you have it can take a very long time to earn it back and even then - all you do is earn the trust back, not erase what previously happen. this might be exactly what's holding your mom back from letting him come along as well. i think the best way to go about it is to talk to your mom about this. it's really going to be the only way so you can find out why she doesn't want him to go (it may not even have anything to do with what happen between you both) and you'll be able to try and find a solution from there. it might be that your mom is the one you need to tell about how you made a mistake but you learned from it and you're not going to be making that mistake again, as well as how honest you've been with your mom about everything since then.
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The original is here:
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I personally think the uncapitalized version is harder to read, and less professional looking. The reason for capitalization is to have an even clearer border between sentences, to be sure one thought stops before another begins. Even with properly capitalized sentences, I've been completely thrown off when I don't notice a sentence has ended; this happens more frequently when there isn't proper capitalization. This quote from bash.org illustrates why capitalizing names is needed:
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<Fashykekes> Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.."
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Take a look at ammo's answer when I change it even more:
Only end-of-sentence punctuation:
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to be honest theres not really going to be anything you or your boyfriend can if your moms answer is a straight no the kind that won't change no matter what. the thing with trust is that it's very easy to lose but one you have it can take a very long time to earn it back and even then all you do is earn the trust back not erase what previously happen. this might be exactly what's holding your mom back from letting him come along as well. i think the best way to go about it is to talk to your mom about this. it's really going to be the only way so you can find out why she doesn't want him to go it may not even have anything to do with what happen between you both and you'll be able to try and find a solution from there. it might be that your mom is the one you need to tell about how you made a mistake but you learned from it and you're not going to be making that mistake again as well as how honest youve been with your mom about everything since then.
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Some chatspeak
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2 b honest theres not really going to be anything you or your boyfriend can if your moms answer is a straight no the kind that won't change no matter what. the thing with trust is that it's very easy to lose but 1 you have it can take a very long time to earn it back & even then all you do is earn the trust back not erase what previously happen. this might be exactly what's holding your mom back from letting him come along as well. i think the best way to go about it is to talk to your mom about this. it's really going to be the only way so you can find out why she doesn't want him to go (it may not even have anything to do with what happen between u both) & you'll be able to try and find a solution from there. it might be that your mom is the 1 you need to tell about how you made a mistake but you learned from it & you're not going to be making that mistake again as well as how honest youve been with your mom about everything since then.
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No punctuation
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2 b honest theres not really going to be anything you or your boyfriend can if your moms answer is a straight no the kind that won't change no matter what the thing with trust is that it's very easy to lose but 1 you have it can take a very long time to earn it back & even then all you do is earn the trust back not erase what previously happen this might be exactly what's holding your mom back from letting him come along as well i think the best way to go about it is to talk to your mom about this. it's really going to be the only way so you can find out why she doesn't want him to go (it may not even have anything to do with what happen between u both) & you'll be able to try and find a solution from there. it might be that your mom is the 1 you need to tell about how you made a mistake but you learned from it & you're not going to be making that mistake again as well as how honest youve been with your mom about everything since then
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Extreme chatspeak, misspellings, and all-caps. I've actually seen this kind of answer on Advicenators before.
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2 B HONEST THARES NOT RILLY GONG 2 B ANYTHNG U OR UR BOYFREIND CAN IF UR MOMS ANSWAR SI A STRAGEHT NO DA KIND TAHT WONT CHANGE NO MAT3R WUT TEH THNG WIT TRUST SI TAHT ITS VERY AASY 2 LOSE BUT ONE U HAEV IT CAN TAEK A VARY LONG TIEM 2 3ARN IT BAK AND EVEN THEN AL U DO SI EARN DA TRUST BAK NOT ERAES WUT PREVIOSLEY HAPEN THES MIGHT B 3XACTLEY WUT HOLDNG UR MOM BAK FROM LATNG HIM COM3 ALONG AS W3L! I THINK DA BST WAY 2 GO ABOUT IT SI 2 TOK 2 UR MOM ABOUT THIS ITS RILLY GONG 2 B TEH ONLEY WAY SO U CAN FIND OUT Y SHE DOESNT WANT HIM 2 GO IT MAY NOT AVEN HAEV ANYTHNG 2 DO WIT WUT HAP3N BTWEN U BOTH AND U B ABLE 2 TRY AND FIND A SOLUTION FROM THER3 IT MIGHT B TAHT UR MOM SI TEH ON3 U NED 2 TAL ABOUT HOW U MAED A MISTAEK BUT U LEARN3D FROM IT AND UR NOT GONG 2 B MAKNG TAHT MISTAEK AGANE AS W3L AS HOW HONAST U BEN WIT UR MOM ABOUT 3VERYTHNG SINCE THEN
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You can see that as proper spelling, punctuation, and capitalization deteriorates, the message is more unclear and unprofessional. Even if you don't notice capitalization problems, other people do, and it makes it harder for them. Finally, the people who invented and maintain the Internet recommend in RFC1855 that you use good capitalization; that should be enough of a reason for anyone:
"Use mixed case and proper punctuation, as though you were typing a letter or sending mail."
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i think someone just wants to be mad. capitalization isn't that big of a deal. i can see someone being mad over horrible grammar and choppy sentences but capitalization is expecting too much out of people that are online. i rarely capitalize things online because i'm lazy or in a rush but i do try to proofread. just ignore it and if you have poor grammar, fix it, no biggie. <3
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Some people will do anything to find something wrong with a person's answer. If you're not talking in "txt chat" you shouldn't be judged on grammar. I think anyone who at least ATTEMPTS to spell things write, DOESN'T talk in txt chat, and gives meaningful advice deserves a high rating.
Of course capitalization makes it look more professional, and I think it looks better so I try my best to use capitals.
"Y0 whaDuhpp dawggie G i think yu sh00d ask hurr 0ut k`zz peace out gurrlscoutttt."
THAT'S the one thing that annoys me. If you type like that, expect people to get mad. But, typing in lowercase letters won't kill anyone so personally I don't see anything wrong with that.
People are harsh and tough, and you can't do anything about it. You have plenty of chances to get more 5 ratings to wipe out that 3. And a 3 isn't the end of the world anyway. But get used to people being unfair. It will probably happen again, so just stick it out.
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Hi there,
What we encourage here is for people to at least make an effort to look intelligent.
Having the benefit of being able to see all the things involved with this, I can tell you that the answer was a solid four, if you had put some effort into writing it.
Fives should be reserved for answers that are referenced and very well researched, as well as having had some effort put into writing them.
The only things that really bother people site-wide are:
Lack of paragraph breaks. (Reading something which is all run together has been shown to be much more stressful to read.)
Lack of punctuation. (Really, this isn't difficult.)
Chat or txt-speak. (Nothing makes you look less intelligent than this. A great answer written in chatspeak will look like a toddler whacking a keyboard with a mallet. NOBODY will take you seriously.)
Lack of capitalization. (Neatness counts. You don't have to do it, but you lose any right to complain about a 3 if you don't. ;-) )
Lastly, we have the obvious one: Complete lack of even trying to spell anything correctly.
The Google toolbar has a decent spell checker. (Get it, use it, love it. -- This is not so much for you, as others who will be reading this.)
So, the long and short of it is like this: Nobody is perfect, but everybody should at least try.
If you don't want to at least try to look intelligent, well, we already have enough people doing that.
We need people who care, not people who are to lazy to use a shift key.
Reason? People who are too lazy to use a shift key, even just once per answer, will never take the time to research answers from people.
Those are the people we need more of.
Google penalizes pages that have poor spelling, believe it or not. That is part of the reason also.
I noticed that you used some caps in your question. I am glad to see you working that direction.
The answer in question here was completely free of capital letters. That would be the reason you got the three.
On the plus side, you are trying now, and your punctuation is better that that of 50% of the users here. :-)
Oh, and side note for you: It was a woman, not a man.
I hope that explains things adequately, but if not, you know where to find me.
DN.
P.S. You don't have to be perfect, I am certainly not, but you do need to try to look intelligent when answering questions here.
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Haha.
Capitalization?
Are you serious?
It sounds like he just wanted something to be mad at.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, it makes the site look less professional but, that's what happens when teens and kids are aloud on this website -- even adults. But if they only let adults on the website half of the US would have quite a few issues.
Yay Advicenators!
But yeah -- punctuation etc. shouldn't really matter.
Needless to say it's the ADVICE you give that counts!
Much Luck.
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YG(younggrandma) is a L2 moderator. She cares plenty about the site. And she is right. The reason a lot of people, especially moderators (myself included), care about spelling and capitalization because we believe that iF eVeRy1 typD lYk DiSsS lolZ, then our site that we put so much effort into won't look nearly as professional or appealing. And a tip: When you're asking a question, the better you type, the higher it will get rated, and the more serious answers you will get. Now, a lot of this doesn't apply to you, because you don't have a problem other than capitalizing. Also, a 3 is a decent rating, so don't worry about it. 5s are given out way to often and easily on this site. So don't worry about the "low" rating. =)
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Meh. I've learned theres 2 sides to everything.
His side: He cares about the site's rules for rating. I guess that's reasonable..
But forreal, this site is called ADVICE[nators]. If you gave good advice, you should get a 5.
"hoo the fuck kares if u type lyk diss??"
Actually. That does look kind of annoying. O_o;
But you type well enough, in my opinion.
Guy just needs to get a life.
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yeaa the person did the same thing with me!
normally, most people arent as anal and they dont do that
like thats the FIRST answer i've ever gotten for not using capitalization... it's a waste of time!
haha
but since your new, just know that that person is like, the only one to have ever done that
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Actually, if everyone was rating correctly
that is how it would be done.
Who in their right mind wants to ask
serious questions on a site that appears
to be ran by illiterate people?
Only those who can't insert a tampon. :)
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"if your trying to be funny, the only thing you're doing is pissing ppl off. this site is for ppl who care."
You are new. [Link](Mouse over link to see full location)
I care plenty about this site. :)
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uh that guys an asshole!
He's just stupid.
Your going to get stupid people on this site who will rate you bad because their dumb.
Just ignore it.
Keep giving good advice and don't let stupid jerks like that ruin your time on this site trying to help others will their problems. That guy seems like he needs more help than what he can get on this site. He needs to work on his social skills. :]
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Some people are really picky about spelling, grammar and punctuation. My guess is that he's one of those people and answers that don't follow proper rules don't get as high of a rating from him. It sounds stupid and unfair, but some people are just like that.
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