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sociopath
so i'll start by telling you a bit about myself.
i am 15 f. i don't want to sound arrogant but yes, i am popular which is why i don't get what is going on. I am vasrity cheerleader as a sophmore and have no trouble w/ guys and have alot of girl friends. so this is my question...
i got into a figth with this girl and it got bad, but girls are catty. she tried to ruin my reputation, but i ruined her life =] i got her kicked off of class vice president and her friends hate her. but to be fair, she really deserved it im not kidding. she posted pictures of me that were like edited and crap to make it look like i was naked, like photocopying my head onto the pic or w/e. and posted it on alot of the lockers. idk why she did it, shes just jealous b/c im dating her ex bf. seems to me like SHES the sociopath not me...
so after this i got in trouble, the school sent me to a therapist to talk about why i act the way i do. he diagnosed me a sociopath. But um... sociopaths are psycho anti-socials and im the center of attention. Im not a freak, i love shopping and guys and they say just b/c im a little decieving and like it my way, makes me a sociopath???
can somebody please explain to me how a popular varsity cheerleader can be a sociopath because i am way not antisocial.
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okay. no offence, but yeah. you are a sociopath. try to lighten up. you're not gonna be all popular and crap forever. to be truly "popular" you have to get people to actually LIKE you, right? I'm not trying to be mean, and I'm sorry If I sound kinda rude right now. But you need to calm down. You can't always get what you want. I'm sure you're actually a really nice person, you just need to stop messing up other people's lives for your own comfort.
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I'm going to be blunt, as so many before me have.
Your psycho-analysis is correct. According to a psychological outlook, you are a sociopath. While it may be slightly "overkill" to judge you as one when you sophomore in highschool, it is still fitting.
I don't know how you can smile when you make other suffer. You find comfort in knowing others suffer because you are getting your way? Your a sophomore in highschool and your out look on life better change, because if it doesn't your going to find a very grim future in the real world. People don't bend over backwords for your wants, they bend over backwards for theirs.
And as a rule of thumb, most highschoolers are still very much child like in their behaviour. Both you, and this other girl, have displayed this and proved it to me once again.
I suggest (other than reading up on the wonderful definations of "sociopath" my advice-collegues have given) to search the meaning yourself. To beat a problem, you need to know what it is, and you do not know what it is.
I could go on with my rant of every little thing you've said and how I would absolutely LOVE to put you in your place and remove you from your place of power, but I am going to spare us both the unpleasentries. As an ending note. Keep up with any kind of medication and counciling, and work hard to get over your condition and lifestyle.
And as a reminder, please apologize to everyone you hurt. Your not proving your tough by hurting others in high school, you just prove your a child.
-Ryan
P.S. Any time a person says "They deserved it" I notice it is always because that person did it to the person explaing that "They deserved it". You had no reason to ruin her life or hurt her. She merely got into an argument with you and you blew it out of proportion and so did she. Only, she did it in a more comical way. Her taking your picture and doing what she did can be called "Photoshopping" and it is for humor only, you can spot the difference a mile away.
Apologize to her and make her do the same.
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"i am catty though, i eman i'll do anythign to get on top. 4 girls transferred in the past 2 years b/c of me =] but still... that doesnt make me a psycho right?."
that doesnt make you a sicopath
it makes you a PATHETIC BITCH!
someone should really shoot you.
how can you be so cruel to people. that girl obviously posted your picture and altered them, because your an ass.
get over yourself and learn how to be nice to people.
go ahead an rate me a one. *shudder* i just hope that maybe some of your ego will go down.
p.s. no one deserves the cruel things you do to them. i hope your parents send you to an institution.
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the way you talk about making other people feel shitty about themselves and doing so you can "get to the top" is really malicious. why would you be proud of making someone feel bad about themselves? to be popular? if its really worth ruining peoples lives why do you want to do it? and if you cant come up with a decent answer then maybe you are a sociopath. besides, it just highschool. i honestly hope you get good help and realize what youre doing isnt funny or worth being a bitch over.
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I think the thing that really clued me in to the fact that you are a sociopath is that part you added at the end: "i'll do anythign to get on top". That is the definition of a sociopath (as I learned in my psychology class). A sociopath will do anything to get to the top, no matter what it takes. Even if that means they ruin other people's lives or hurt them emotionally, they will get what they want. They generally have a sense of self-importance, as well as a feeling that what they are doing is "right", even though by standard moral idealisms, it is found to be unacceptable. This really is a problem, however. These behaviours are not only destructive to other people, but to yourself as well. Your school did the right thing to send you to the psychologist.
Also, to answer what you were wondering about being anti-social:
Yes, you are anti-social by a psychological definition. Those who are anti-social have little or no sympathy/compassion for the feelings of others. They cannot relate to people's suffering. Howeer, the common definition of anti-social, the one you were using, is one who does not enjoy the company of other people, and that does not apply to you.
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If i acted like you. I would expect things like tho happen to me. IN other peoples eyes you are a bitch. You being a sophmore && a varsity cheerleader does not give you any permission to ruin anyones life. When you beat the crap out of girls its not cool && no one things it is. You don't get a good name for fighting. And you figthing people && causing people to transfers is nothing to be so proud of. You need help. And alot of it.
Learn how to spell. psy·cho·path
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You need help. what she did was wrong, but we're talking about You, not her. Normal people get upset but you don't go out and "ruin" someone's life no matter what. That's not going to get you anywhere in life. grow up.
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No your right that doesn't make you a sociopath. Don't listen to what anyone else says. You know what you are and just stick with that.
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no offence but you are one messed up person i mean you dont go around saying you runied her life! it just makes you sound like a bitch and people like that in our school are overrated. and it sounds like your the sociopath instead of the other girl and also shes probably doing this because she probably hate people who thinks they are the center of attention and all that i mean if i were that girl ill do the same thing because from what you wrote you sound like a little skanky ass bitch!
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Wow. Sorry, but you do sound pretty messed up. Put yourself in the other girls shoes. Since you say your "popular", have no prob. getting guys, and your a cheerleader, then your probably stuck up. Thats probably why she did what she did. And by the way you are acting in this question your making yourself sound like a bitch. And SOME people on this site are really socipaths. How would YOU feel if someone were to talk about you the way you are talking about them. And making people transfer is nothing to be proud of. Other people have feelings just like you do, and you need to think about that. Then maybe other people wouldn't think your a catty bitch.
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Anti-social in a psychological sense means that you react to situations in ways that society would not usually approve of. It does not mean that you are anti-social in the sense that you do not like to socialize with others.
For that reason, I think there is evidence that you have this disorder, because there are signs of an anti-social disorder in what you are saying. The fact that you like to be in control of the situation, you seem to have little or no sympathy for a girl's feelings when it comes to dating her ex-boyfriend, you wrote smiley's after saying that you caused girls to transfer, and you admit that you are deceiving and have 'ruined a girl's life'.
I'm not going to come down on you because this is a disorder that no one brings upon themselves, but I encourage you to continue to get help with it. It is better for you to try to work through this so that it doesn't affect relationship later in life. I know you may feel like you are on top of the world in high school right now, but it's a short time, and the world might have just as little sympathy for you as you did for that girl.
Good luck with your future work in this and I hope you find a helpful and understanding person to get you through this.
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Antisocial personality disorder (APD) is a personality disorder which is often characterised by antisocial and impulsive behaviour.
It may not be that you arent social but that your impulsive about things, which it sounds like you are.
A popular varsity cheerleader can be a sociopath because, you get everything you want, and your starting to be demanding. You want to wreck people's lives if they hurt you in any kind of way. Just because your popular doesnt make anything better, and you dont want to so und arrogant becauase you are.You can justadmit it and dont be offended because everything you wrote up there about ruining this girls life, is horrible. You do realize that if you dont start treating people the right way, that when you graduate your going to have no friends.
Because we all know the mean people of highschool, when they graduate they are no longer popular and in charge of anyone.
Yes the fcat that you'll do anything to be on top. That doesnt make you PHYSCO but it makes it obvious that you have some kind of problem, like your an attention freak. Something like that. You shouldnt be proud that you wrecked a girls life, or that you made 4 girls transfer.
I'm not going to defend thatyour not physco or that you dont have a problem,because everything you wrote seems to show that you have some type of disorder, because it seems like you live ot be on top and hurt people.
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whoa first of all what she did was wrong. and i think i would of got a little crazy to. but a sciopath is a liitle far out there. But i think you really do nned to go take along look in the mirror and figure out how you can make 4 girls transfer ( i want to be like you when I grow up)lol but seriously remeber what goes around comes around
Jazzy**
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I hate to say it, but since you receieve a diagnosis from a professional no one here should dispute that. If you are not comfortable with the opinion of this therapist you have a right to seek a second opinion.
Don't confuse antisocial with unsociable, in the mental health sense they would be two entirely different things.
I would like to add that most sociopaths..would never believe that they are one. However, there are probably many people that are a sociopath, but have good control over their lives..so it doesn't make you someone that will turn into a serial killer or anything like that! Not everyone fits the textbook image of the diagnosis they receieve.
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To be antisocial or a sociopath don't not mean you are crazy or physcho or a serial killer in training. It's a personality disorder that lots of people have. I am very similar you you actually, that's why I took an interest in your question. You are narsisistic as well, vindictive and vengeful, am I right? Maybe a little bit of a bully? Just like me! It's just the type of person that you are, there isn't any "cure" because it isn't really "wrong", just different then the majority of people in the world. That is what a personality disorder is. That's not to say that it's ok to be a bitch, or to make people's lives a living hell just because you can..it explains why you are more likely to do that them most people would be. I personally don't see what's wrong with what you did at all, the ho deserved it. Of course, I guess that's why they say we have the same thing.
I'm 24, so I'll just tell you that as you get older you will continue to be Miss Popular and everyone will be intimidated by you. Just try to be a little nicer sometimes to make your life easier.
Hope I helped.
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FYI bitch i really dont care if you had to give your teacher a lapdance to get straight as ok i dont give a fuck and not losers have to work for their problems people that are responisble get what they want by working for it and if you had takin your head outta ur ass for a minute youd understand what i mean you whore .in my school me and my friends are the ones who rule the school and girls like you are at the bottom...so try movin around a bit...
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People seem to have got into the habit of throwing around words like "sociopath" when in fact sociopaths in the sense that most people would define them (i.e. having literally NO regard or compassion for ANYBODY but themselves) are very rare indeed.
If what you've said is the full story then your therapist has jumped to huge conclusions that are usually, as someone's already said, reserved for adults. This is due to the fact that as toddlers just about everyone is a "sociopath" only concerned with doing things in order to get what we want and need. It can take a long time to properly develop a social conscience and a lot of it comes through experience.
At 15 yeah you're probably selfish and from your story you're certainly vindictive but that's pretty par for the course and judging you purely by how you act towards someone you dislike who's gone out of her way to offend you is hardly a fair representation of your overall character. (N.B. EVERYBODY likes it their way.)
Having said all that no-one on here can tell you whether you are or are not a sociopath according to the psychiatric definition because we've never met you but personally i don't have a lot of time for psychiatry or "therapy" as it stand at the moment anyway. It's a very shaky, inexact science and often labels are slapped on people based on the opinion of an individual who is never going to be completely objective by virtue of being a person themselves.
Go to a few other therapists (preferably a genuine psychiatrist complete with an MD. Someone calling themselves a "therapist" may not necessarily have the same training or knowledge of metal disorders) if you want this sociopath label contested. I'm willing to bet if you go to 3 different people you'll get 3 different opinions.
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IF YOU HAD READ MY ANSWER COMPLETELY WITH HEART AND COMPASSION (WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE)YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT I WAS SHOWING YOU HOW, I THOUGHT, YOU WEREN'T A SOCIOPATH. YOUR LACK OF APPRECIATION AND UNDERSTANDING AS WELL AS YOUR INABILITY TO SEE THAT THIS WHOLE ANSWER WAS ABOUT YOU ONLY PROVES TO ME THAT YOUR DIAGNOSIS BY YOUR MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY WAS CORRECT. YOU ARE AN UNGRATFUL AND HEARTLESS PERSON AND NEEDS SERIOUS HELP. I WAS SHARING AND RELATING ONLYTO SHOW YOU THAT IT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE. YOUR NARCASISTIC ATTITUTE PROVES THAT YOU NEED SERIOUS HELP AND I DO HOPE THAT YOU GET IT. YOU'RE A SAD, SAD PERSON WHO I DO BELIEVE IS BEYOND HELP AS ARE ALL SOCIOPATHS AND YOUR RESPONCE TO AN HONEST EFFORT AT HELPING YOU ONLY PROVES IT TO BE SO. TO ALL MY READERS, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I AM TIRED OF UNGRATEFUL SPOILED PEOPLE WHO SET US UP SO THAT THEY CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES BY PUTTING US DOWN. I FELT SHE NEEDED A GOOD TALKING TO, EVEN THOUGH I REALIZE IT WILL DO NO GOOD.
A sociopath is someone who can fit in well w/society and mimic appropriate behavior because they are taught to. They can be extremely popular and likeable. They don't have empathy for others or remorse for what they do. They can't deal with the reality of their behavior and can't accept their flaws. They are talented in turning things around on people and making it appear to others that they are responsible for what is going on so that they don't have to take responsibility for their own behavior. It's less painful that way. They are really good with the technique of projection. This means that they project their flaws onto others and say things like "I'm not the sociopath, she is", or blaming others for why they have to do whatever it is that they are doing, such as your blaming this girl for your getting her into trouble. They do not consider other people's wishes, welfare or rights because they are incapable of understanding or caring about the damage they impart onto others. They usually make great serial killers.
Now having said all of that...I don't know where a mental health professional gets off telling a teenager that she's a sociopath. All teenagers are sociopaths. They are always laying blame elsewhere and doing truly mean things to each other w/o remorse. They do not want to take responsibility for their behavior and blame others. They lie and have no empathy for others and their situation. They are narcissistic and think the world revolves around them...AND THAT is normal. That's being a teenager. Oh, man, some of the things I use to do when I was young...I look back and can't believe it was me. I could never hurt anyone today physically or mentally. I was a cheerleader too. I had this one guy pay me $5 a week so I wouldn't beat him up. It was simply pathetic some of the things I did and said to people back then. At the same time I had some kids under my protection too (they didn't have to pay anything I just liked them). It's an unfortunate part of growing up. I was diagnosed w/ depression and as an adult w/ADHD (they didn't have this diagnoses when I was a child). It's up to the adults to help young people see where behavior is problematic and personally I don't think you are a sociopath. That's an awfully strong diagnosis. Most mental health care professionals won't diagnose this until a person is an adult. I think you suffer from a well known condition which is simple to diagnose, you're a TEENAGER. Yes, I know, that in itself is pretty scary, but that's all I think that is going on. If it were up to me I would insist on a second opinion. You would be w/in your rights and deservedly so. Just because someone is a therapist does not mean they know what they are talking about all of the time. Also, you might want to take a second look at your behavior in all of this too. Even though this girl did some pretty appalling things, you might need to look at what you did and how you did it. Were your actions the best course of action? Could you have achieved your goals w/o stooping to her level? I agree, she needed to be punished for what she did. That was not right, but there are always other ways to achieve the same goals. I can't go into them because I don't know what you did that lead your school to recommend counseling. It had to be pretty big considering what that girl did to you. Whatever you do, don't let someone else label you. We do that too much in this country and once someone is labeled they start becoming the label. You were hurt and reacting out of anger. Sometimes we let the anger cloud our better judgment. Sounds to me you need more anger management counseling then labeling. I feel for you in all of this. Don't loose sight of who you are and you know deep down who that is. Don't let anyone's mis-diagnosis take that away from you.
Namaste!
LULABELLE
This is a site that gives you basic characteristics of a sociopath.
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Sociopaths aren't always antisocial. A lot of them are very social, they talk a lot and don't show emotion so they usually get along in cliques well because they seem so confident.
You're therapist is whack. You can't diagnose someone as a sociopath like that, being a sociopath isn't a light matter.
By the way, that girl was a bitch. -Anyone- would have lashed out at her, maybe not as strongly, but what do you expect if someone is photocopying offensive pictures of you and posting them around the school?
Someone should get HER checked out.
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