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abortion
hey im a guy...and no im not planning on getting an abortion. i was just wondering something: why is it that girls/women abort children instead of adopt them? i know there are plenty of reasons why, but is there one (or more) that would overshadow the case of giving birth then putting the baby up for adoption. looking for a girls point of view on this, because even if the girl didn't want the baby, would there be something wrong in giving it away instead of killing it? thanks, will rate.
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ok so you try havin a big baby come out of your arse hole, then not consider having an abortion. Apparently the GUY equivalent of having a baby is having a bowling ball passed through your penis... so would you rather do that or just get rid of it? you tell me?
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Hey, this is a good question. I agree with you to some degree. Found these articles, thought you might want to read them.
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One of the favorite mantras of abortion advocates around the country is "Every Child a Wanted Child". It sounds noble enough, until you realize what their solution to unwantedness is. If a child isn't wanted, they argue, then it shouldn't be born. The problem, of course, is that the child is already conceived, and the only way to keep said child from being born is to kill it. How do they justify such violence? Often by arguing that it is better for the child to be dead than for the child to be unwanted.
This is a bogus argument. It doesn't work for the simple fact that no one makes such an argument about children after birth. Whoever heard Planned Parenthood or the National Organization for Women (NOW) argue that it would be better to kill children waiting for adoption rather than let them suffer through an "unwanted" life? If someone's right to life truly were established or removed based simply on their "wantedness", that would be the deathnell of homeless men and women around the nation.
Something as subjective as "wantedness" can never be the basis for granting someone the right to life, and abortion advocates know this. They don't argue that mothers should be free to kill their "unwanted" children after birth because they know these children are living, human beings with full rights of personhood. The only reason they argue that mothers should be free to kill their unwanted children before birth is because they're ignoring the scientific reality that these children, too, are living, human beings. The question is humanity, not wantedness.
Finally, it must never be forgotten, that the very discussion of "wantedness" in the first place ignores a substantial reality. There are no "unwanted" children in the broadest sense. Even if the biological parents want nothing to do with their offspring, there are families all over the nation waiting desperately to adopt a baby, families who are willing to adopt diseased babies of any race or ethnicity. This oft-cited notion of "unwantedness" is misleading and is utterly insufficient to justify even a single abortion.
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Abortion advocates often argue that it is acceptable for a woman to abort her pregnancy if she cannot afford to raise a child. While they are careful to use noble and compassionate language, they are essentially arguing that if a baby is going to be too expensive, the mother has a right to kill it. Such rationale falls apart on many levels, but we'll start with the most fundamental. Like so many abortion arguments, this one assumes something about the unborn embryo or fetus that it hasn't proved. It assumes, in fact, the very thing that it must prove before the argument can hold any water.
Isn't it true, that there are born-children in America today who are growing up in poverty? Yes it is true, but has anyone ever heard someone argue that the mothers of these born-children should have the right to kill them, since they can't afford to raise them? No one makes such an absurd and heartless argument because we all know that no amount of financial hardship is sufficient rationale for killing another human being, particularly an innocent child. The only reason anyone uses this argument to try and justify abortion is because they are assuming that unborn children are not human persons. But until abortion advocates can demonstrate that children are not human beings before they're born, all such appeals to financial hardship have no foundation. Poverty is not the issue. The real issue is the humanity of the unborn child.
Another reason this "poverty" argument falls apart is because most abortion advocates support abortion on demand. They want women to have the right to abort their children for any reason or no reason at all. Therefore appealing to the hard cases of financial instability is just a smoke-screen designed to mask what is an incredibly broad agenda.
Finally, and most practically, it is simply not true to suggest that there are any women in America who cannot afford to carry their pregnancy to term. There are now more crisis pregnancy care centers in this country than there are abortion providers. They all function to help bring women through their pregnancies by providing them the emotional and financial assistance they need to carry to term and, if need be, place for adoption (which would relieve all future financial obligation). Any woman who is pregnant, no matter what her financial situation, can receive the resources she needs to carry her baby to term.
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As shocking a reality as this is, abortion advocates would have you believe that putting a child to death is an acceptable solution to that child's physical or mental disability. In much the same way that they argue for aborting children who might grow up in poverty, abortion advocates also argue for the right to abort children who might grow up with a disability...as if disease or handicap somehow strips a person of their right to live and relegates them to a life of misery. Such a suggestion is barbaric and inhumane and has no place in a just society. There are children of all ages, and adults too, who are alive today and are living through all manner of disease and disability. Do these physical limitations make them less than human? Is killing everyone who is sick really an acceptable way to treat sickness?
The only reason anyone can suggest for children before birth what they would never suggest after birth is that they are assuming something about that child which they have not proven. Anyone who argues that abortion is a necessary safeguard against a life of suffering and disability is assuming that the unborn child is not yet a living human being. But this is exactly the point that they must prove before they can even begin to make such claims. Disability isn't the issue, it's humanity. We do not kill people for their disabilities, period. Therefore, unless we're not human beings before we're born, our disabilities should no more disqualify us from life before birth than they do after birth.
Furthermore, this pressure to abort handicapped babies is built largely on congecture, on the mere "likelihood" that a child has some kind of disability. Often, the tests prove wrong, and more often still, these children, if allowed to live, end up with lives of joy and happiness that far exceeds those of their "more healthy" peers. Suffering and hardship are not bad things. They are means to a greater end, a crucial part of the human journey. Anyone who tries to eliminate suffering by killing the "sufferers" is establishing a very, very, very, very dangerous trend! It is not for us to decide who has a life worth living and who doesn't, and we certainly wouldn't want someone else making that decision for us!
In the end, this whole question of disability is a mere disguise to divert attention from abortion's true agenda. The fact is, abortion advocates support killing babies wether they have disabilities or not. They're not arguing that abortion should be limited to fetus' with severe handicaps. They're arguing that the mother, alone, should have the right to kill her baby for any reason under the sun, and that is the most shocking reality of all.
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As surprising as this may be to some people, there is no debate within the medical community as to when life begins. Life begins at conception. Therefore, every "succesful" abortion ends the life of a living human being, and we're not asking you to take our word for it. Consider the testimony below from an assortment of leading embryology text books.
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Hope that helps and what you were looking for, nice to see a good question asked around here.
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I agree with you because I agree, there are so many people out there who desperatly want but cant get children. I think that killing the baby is just...cruel and inhuman (one case, if it hasnt even started developing like one week along then I'm not as harsh to it, because its really just the same as like having sex and wasting sperm and egg, you could say you are killing a baby there)
ANYWAY! To actually answer your questions, some girls do it so their parents wont find out. Some girls do it so they dont have to get stretch marks and fat and lose their figures. Some girls do it to hide the fact they were even pregnant fromm their boyfriends, and some because their boyfriends request it. Some are just plain scared and dont want to go through labor and all. Some dont want to get attatched to the baby at all so they just get rid of it early. Some dont want to bring children into what they think is a terrible corrupt harsh world. Some are only thinking of themselves, and they dont think that it makes a difference to the baby. Some are just not in a right state of mind and do rash decisions. The possiblities to the reasons are endless.
I hope I helped you at all, what an interesting and unique question.
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People will be people. They aren't thinking about that poor baby, they are just thinking about how they feel. They are very selfish. Some women who are raped may feel like the baby should be aborted because she didn't ask for the pregnancy and doesn't want to carry it around with her for 9 months. Others, who simply had sex with a guy and got pregnant, want to abort the baby because they only think of themselves. They don't want the responsibility of going through child birth when they could just abort the baby. I think that they should just have the baby and give it up for adoption. They should take responsibility for their actions. The only time a mother should be allowed to abort a baby is if she has been raped or her health is in serious jeopardy.
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well you could get preganent while you were raped... but the biggest reason for girl to get abortion is because she doesn't to want anyone to know she is preganent.. because she didn't want people to see her in a different view and stuff... i hope that's what you were looking for.. if not let me know and i'll see what i can do for you =]
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My friends cousin, Who was 14, got pregnet.
She is not rich- And she and her family struggle much with money. She got an abortion beacause SHE thought the baby wouldn't be able to live how they do, and make them struggle, and the baby suffer. SHE thought it be too hard to give up her baby. so she did it.
im 100% against abortions but, you know i've never been in the spot before.
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well i think that the mothers dont want to go threw the pain, and then the suffering of not being able to care fore the child instead of giving birth to the child getting to see it, than having to give it away... i hope this helps you, and thats a great question to ask!
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Selfish? In some cases yes in some no.
Let's say a gil gets raped. She is pregnant and she has no idea who the father is. She has a large chance of being infected with STDs and her baby is at risk too. So she is basically screwed and so is her baby. This is not her fault at all she did not want this to happen. Also her baby may have birth defects because she doesn't know who the father is or what's wrong with him. She may be doing her baby a favor by aborting it.
Now let's say the girl has unprotected sex and is between the ages of 12-16. She is preganat, however, she is not fully developed yet. Now she is at risk for dieing when she gives birth. She also is at risk for giving birth to a premature baby. I know this is completely her fault this time but her baby may have defects. So, again, she is dooing her baby a favor by aborting it. She is also doing her parents favor so she doesn't die.
Besides these two cases I am completely against abortion. I would like to give you one last scenerio though.
A pregnant woman is on her way to get an abortion. She gets in an accident caused by a drunk driver. She survives but her baby dies. The drunk driver is charged of murder. The woman was about to get her baby murdered anyway. Now does this seem right?
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well sometimes they have to abort. like if the mother is in an extreme life threatening state or whatever. some do it because they are stupid and they dont want other stupid girls to find out but i think its wrong unless the mom is in danger if dying really. or something people abort because the child is going to be like extremely deformed and like braindead and its easier not to go through that after the child is born.. like before you form and atachment. also being pregnant is expensive and some people cant affort to pay all that money just to give the baby up
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its a huge topic and ive not got alot of time, but i was interested by your question
women abort their babies when the life the child would be brought in to would not be a fair life to live...say if the parents havent got much money, or they could not provide a loving environment
also, when the life of the baby would in a sense kill the mother, say if she was really young and could not physically deliver it, or if her family situations were such that having the baby would put her life in danger
the reason why abortion is not murder: even though the baby could be "living" technically, and they might have physical form, they have not lived in the world and have therefor not experienced life
in most cases, abortion is more about the fairness towards bringing the baby into the world than it is about the mother
yeah, its not a happy or moral thing in some people's minds, but it is a right answer
let me know what you think
*thats not what i meant at all. what i mean is that it is not killing in taking away a life that has not ever existed
**P.S.i dont think ud be able to feedback twice so u can IM me if u want, duzzie19, but if its not a big deal dont worry about it
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I for one am against abortion its wrong, your killing another human being and not being punished for it? most women get abortions because they cannot either afford to have the baby, dont want it, or do not want to go through the pain of giving it away. Its quite selfish like you thought. They should have been careful in the first place its on them and its definitaly not the babys fought. This website gives reasons as to why women do it, check it out! =]
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some times it is selfish because they don't want to ruin their figure . but there are plenty of good reasons . haveing a child may actually kill them . for example you get pregnant at 14 and your body is too small to carry the child . another reason is the child may suffer from some disease that the person is carrying like HIV and they don't want their child to suffer . they may have also been drinking and drug use before they knew they were pregnant and will cause birth deffects . another reason is they may not want the child going to anothers home . not all adoptive parents are fit to have a child . the mother may not want the child traveling from foster home to foster home because many foster parents unfortunatly accept kids just for the money and abuse them .
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There are many many different circumstances, and its wrong to say its entirely "selfish". Sure, some women have purely selfish reasons. Maybe it was a completely unplanned pregnanacy and they dont want to ruin their figure. As much as I hope that wasnt the case, it probably has been before.
The other thing you said that really grated on me was "they put themselves into that situation." What if it was a rape victim? They have no control over that, and honnestly I would never want a child from such a horrible experiance. Its not fair to either the mother or the child. Can you imagine that baby growing up? "Mommy, who was my daddy?" "A sleezy predator that raped me." I dont think so.
And what about a child thats going to be born with major birth defects? It would be cruel to ask that child to live in that state or amount of pain for the rest of its life. Abortion isnt a black and white subject, thats why its so controversial. You cant lump reasons into little categories like you tried too. There are thousands of reasons, with thousands of answers.
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I know a lot of us are pretty stupid, but I'm pretty sure the "no im not planning on getting an abortion" statement falls into the "no shit" category.
I'm not defending or condoning either side, these are just the facts as I see them.
From what I've heard, since I've never been pregnant, pregnancy can be very difficult and it wreaks total havoc with one's body. The woman is obligated to take care of herself so that the baby is not born with defects and it makes a woman have considerably less energy and a ton of other things. Some people just don't want to deal with that, or can't because of circumstances like their jobs. Selfish? Maybe, maybe not, but you can't judge because you are not that person and you will never know the whole situation or how it feels.
There are also a ton of other possibilities. Maybe it's a teenager whose dad will beat her if he finds out that she was ever pregnant and she's scared. Maybe someone would rather be rid of their baby than watch it be raised by someone else. It really all depends on the situation.
People have sex, and that is always how it is going to be. It's like anything else. I see people who drink excessively telling other people to consider the consequences of having sex, but then they turn around and do really stupid crap after they drink. Everyone does something at some point without considering that there are serious consequences. It does not make them a stupid or bad person, it makes them human. I can't explain why people do the things they do. It just happens, and no matter how much you like or dislike it, it will keep happening.
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If I was pregnant, I would get an abortion. The reason for that is, as soon as a mother gives birth to her child, she feels such a strong motherly bond that it is so hard to let go of her baby. She may even keep the baby at that point. If she's not ready to have a baby and keeps the baby, the child will not have a very nice childhood. That is why when we just get rid of the baby before it is born, it is much easier so we don't feel any type of bond.
Another reason for abortion is so that if a child is up for adoption, they won't feel like they weren't wanted by there biological parents.
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