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is it acceptable for boys and girls allowed to swim in the same pool?
at my daughters school next year,(9th grade) in PE there will be a swim unit and boys and girls have it together? Why is this allowed? Wouldn't this make girls feel uncomfortable. Wouldn't boys use this opportunity to harass or humilate girls? Also, why are boys allowed to be shirtless in the presence of girls? Why is no sense of modesty maintained
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I must say this is a very unique question. There is nothing out of the ordinary with this swim class. I've never heard of seperate pools or swim classes. Once you are in the water you really can't see anything but a face. As far as boys being shirtless it's actually a safety reason as to why they don't wear shirts. They can fill up with water and for the inexperienced swimmer they could drown.
If a girl were to feel uncomfortable I'm sure the school has ways to accomidate her fears or anxiety. Please do not worry. Based on the questions you have asked I have a feeling that you have brought your daughter up to be an intelligent and respectable young lady. Rest assured that she is there to learn and have fun in a manner that I am sure will be pleasing to you. If your schedule allows how about you stop by one of the swim classes and see exactly what is going on for yourself. I think this will ease your mind to know your daughter is learing a skill that is imparative to know and could oneday be used to save someones life. You might even want to consider taking swim lessons yourself. Everyone needs to learn to swim.
I'm so proud of you for being so concerned about every aspect of your daughter's life. You are obviously a great mother and I think you are raising a wonderful daughter. Don't worry and just relax. She will be fine.
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haha swimming with the opposite sex is normal. and if she is in 9th grade she probably know right from wrong, so if anything happens, she knows how to handle it. Just think about it as a public pool, all different sexs' are in there and all different age groups.
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They could have the same class togther and I am sure they have diffrent locker rooms so it would be just another day at the pool but if you are really worried I would keep close contact with the coach that would make you feel safer and let the coach know you care but don't be so worried because that could make your daughter mad and you never know what could happen.
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what's wrong with having boys and girls swim together?? Its the same thing when you go to the beach or the pool. How would you feel if someone told you that you weren't allowed to swim with your husband/significant other..? It really doesn't matter..
Plus its 9th grade. Kids that age get more mature.. Its not like they have cooties anymore haha. Honestly, its not a big deal. Plus there's a teacher there. So it's not like its unsupervised or anything.
And would you prefer if guys wore t-shirts while swimming..? Why does it matter if they're shirtless or not? Guys swim shirtless regardless of age. My grandpa is 80 years old and swims shirtless. Thats just how it is now-a-days.
Honestly.. if it bothers you THAT much that boys and girls are swimming in the same pool, transfer your daughter to a convent and an all-girls school. But in my personal opinion, that would make no sense considering she will get the experience sooner or later in life.
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well they want them to be together maybe some coach will say girls are better then girls the boys will get in to that and stick with it if they dont maybe some girls may like the boys or they dont have time to do girl in seprate classes
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It is possible for people to treat one another with dignity and respect while wearing swimsuits.
Not only is it possible - it's actually a valuable thing to learn how to do.
As many people have mentioned, it’s not just the girls who are uncomfortable. Boy at that age are also sensitive and very aware of their bodies. Boys also get bullied and made fun of by their peers (including girls) because of their bodies.
And that’s wrong. That’s always wrong. The teachers and instructors of the swim program are likely well aware of this, and have systems in place to help deter and punish those who do not treat their classmates with dignity and respect. It would be very fair of you to talk to the teacher about their methods for maintaining proper respectful behaviour at the pool.
However, it is completely acceptable, too many if the majority of people in my community, for young people of that age to take swimming lessons together. Swimming is very important life skill, and I’m always very happy to hear when schools include it in their curriculum. Not knowing how to swim is a scary thing that can limit a person and cause stress in their life.
Modesty is not a bad thing - but being modesty isn’t the same as being respectful and being dignified. Being modest is something many people use to ENFORCE dignified and respectful behaviour, but dignified and respectful behaviour SHOULD be able to happen even in the absence of modesty (--if bathsuits are in fact immodest, which many parents would not feel they are.)
Your child will - in class and in life - be exposed to some ideas and experiences that you do not approve of. Your job as a parent of a young teen is not to try and defend them or restrict them from every possible thing you dislike or disapprove of, but to give them the tools to understand and behave justly and with dignity and respect, even in situations where that might be difficult.
If you don’t want your child in this class, talk to the school. I think you’d be very wrong to remove your daughter, however, since she is your minor daughter, you are allowed to make many decisions on her behalf - even if I - and everyone else here, thinks they are the wrong decision.
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Hey there(: trust me they woun't think anything about it. Boys and girls swim with each other all the time outta school. They woun't think anything about it. Like if you have a best friend thats a boy when you get in the pool your not gonna freak out and say oh my goshh I dont want him to see me! Actually when we go swimmin in field trips at my school thats my favorite trip. Guys and girls don't think about stuff like that, they just wanna have fun. Boys don't care if there shirtless thats not bad at all. Now if a gril was then ya. Also its kinda the oppisite at that age bein a teen instead of a girl not wanting a boy to see her at that age they normaly want boys to see them like that. I hope I helped(: Ps. Boys aren't devils they arent gonna get in the pool and say lets go harass these girls. haha also its not all about girls what about the boys? Girls look at the boys with attraction too, just not boys xoxo Madison
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I find it interesting that you are only concerned with how GIRLS might feel uncomfortable in this situation.
What about the boys?
What makes you think that a boy wouldn't be just as embarrassed and uncomfortable as a girl in this situation?
Males and females of all ages swim together outside of schools. Would you stop your daughter from swimming at a public pool because boys will be around? Or stop her from wearing a bathing suit at the beach?
Do you know what I think would encourage males and females to feel uncomfortable about their bodies around each other? Keeping them separate all the time. If children are brought up thinking that it's wrong to see each other's bodies unless they are fully clothed at all times then they're going to feel a lot more uncomfortable in the long run.
As for boys with their shirts off, that's hardly anything new. There is nothing 'dirty' or 'rude' about a bare male chest. They don't have breasts in the same sense as females and I'd argue that a bare chest is no more inappropriate than bare legs. I'm sure very few girls will feel uncomfortable because boys have their shirts off.
Looking at the other questions you've asked, I don't think you're asking this question out of genuine parental concern but I thought I may as well put my two cents in.
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Yes, it is acceptable. No, your assumptions about boys harassing girls doesn't really apply to pubescent teens who are more likely thinking about sex than harassment. No, no one really cares about being immodest other than you or thinks that shirtless teenagers is a bad thing.
The world isn't what it used to be. More and more people are realizing that it's more important to educate kids about the world than to try to protect them from it.
This isn't the 50s when girls who were less than fully covered should never be within 20 yards of male vision. Society is evolving, becoming less uptight. You might want to do the same.
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I'm not sure if you are born in this country or from one of the middle eastern countries were mixing of the sexes is not common. Here in this country, the USA, the mixing of the sexes is is not only common it is encouraged as part of the social adaption of middle and high school.
In school for PE when the weather is warm enough both boys and girls are outside for PE. It is not uncommon for the boys PE teacher to choose up sides for a ball game then have one side take of there shirts. Whatever game is being played the teams are called skins VS Shirts. This has been a common practice since I was in school back in the late 50's. I'm sure your daughter has seen boys without shirts during her PE classes before.
If your sense of decency or religious values are affronted by your daughter being in a coed swimming class then you need to speak with the school principal. Just be aware that by separating your daughter from the rest of the class you make her a target for the other children to tease. Yes there are rules against teasing and harassing; teachers are not everywhere and children are not always in school.
It is none of mine or anyone else's business as to how you want to raise your child. I will offer you this one piece of advice. As parents we want to protect are children as much as possible, that is a role as parents. At some point there are things no matter how hard we try that we cannot protect them from. At this point we need to take up our next most important job that of teacher. We need to teach our children what they are seeing, why they are seeing it and how to decide if this is wrong and why or if it is right and why.
The world is an ever change place. Just last night my wife and I were reminiscing about television and some of the shows that were on in the early days of TV. They were great shows, very entertaining. Unfortunately they would be humongous flops by today's standards and what viewer want.
We cannot hide everything from our children or they can be seriously hurt, both physically and otherwise when it is time for them to go out into today's world. Among all our other responsibilities as parents it is our job to prepare our children to become responsible adults and take there place in society.
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Honestly? I'm around 13 and we went swimming together, 13!!!!!!!!!! Don't spazz or anything, they probably wont notice, I even got hugs from guys there, yes. They were shirtless.
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Well, I can be honest as I did this when I was younger. Maybe there is some uncomfortable feelings in the initial few lessons, but, to be honest, you have fun swimming! the boys and girls are probably never going to see each others changing rooms so the only part where they'll be together is in the pool, where the teachers will keep a close eye on them. As for the uncomfortable feelings, just think of when people go swimming with friends, there's males and females in the pool then but your only thinking about having a good time.
I understand you are worried for your daughter well being, but in all honesty it is just you being over-protective, the teachers will make sure she is safe and it will be beneficial for her later life if she can socialise with males and females. trust me. :)
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this is allowed as the school are not allowed to be sexual split for classes, it is perfectly legal buy the Swimming Assiation. yes it may make them feel uncomfortable at first and if your daughter does not like the idea after the first session then im sure the school will be happy to accommodate the situatuion. If you are un-happy about the fact the boys are going shirtless in the pool then there are special swim tops that the boys can buy to use when they are swimming.
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