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Is death an acceptable path to end pain?


Question Posted Monday January 19 2009, 6:51 am

Hello. My name is Bobby, I`m 32 and from London. I no longer want to live. I am not in an irrational state of mind and niether do I suffer from a debilitating mental illness. I obviously have issues but I have a fire in my heart and I strongly believe death is the only solution for me in order to exorcise this pain. Yes I am sad and lonely and have no friends and have debts and have little money and no prospects but I do not want anything anymore. Death has become a beautiful dream for me and all I want from the almighty is death. If people in physical pain are sometimes allowed to die (euthanasia) then why can someone in extreme emotional pain not be allowed to do the same. My pain is too great and too deep to be simply diagnosed and treated via therapy or drugs or a combination of the 2. My pain has paralysed me emotionally and has left me a pathetic and useless wreck. I must have the same rights to die as someone in physical pain. I don`t want attention and niether do I want to be celebrated (I`m a nobody after all) so this is not a plea for help or some pathetic attention seeking rant. I genuinely want to die. If society can accept the self-death of someone in physical pain then why can it not accept the death of someone in emotional pain. Who`s to say my pain is not equal or greater than that someone?

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xkatiex answered Tuesday January 20 2009, 4:13 pm:
Seriously, why put your shit onto all of us? Emotional pain... yeah everyone on the face of this earth feels emotional pain. They get over it or take medication. And who says your pain is "too great for medication"??? Have you tried it?

You have NO right to end your life. There are people out there who want more than anything to live, but they've been given a month or so to live...

Man up Bobby... Step up to the plate, go see a doctor and get on some meds...

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TimothyDanger answered Tuesday January 20 2009, 1:17 am:
make a list of everything you ever wanted to do.

100 things.
Do them. Don't even consider suicide until you do. After you do those things, you will have made your world a better place for yourself and others. It will help you find purpose and meaning.

And please see a profesional about this. No one on this site is really qualified to help

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Daydreamin73 answered Monday January 19 2009, 11:05 pm:
No one is trying to minimize your pain. Emotional pain is overwhelming. But you have to know that life will get better. Whatever it is that has you feeling this way, the feeling will eventually give way to other things. It does not last forever. Time really does heal wounds. Many times I have been upset and felt that I would cry forever.That the pain I was feeling would kill me.But I was wrong. Everyday I got stronger and so will you. There are so many people worse off than you or me.Really. I don't know your situation, but you don't know mine either. I know you have probably heard this before but I hope you will listen again. If you take your own life you are damning your soul to an eternity burning in Hell.There is no forgivness for that. God can and will help you if you will let Him.He turned my life around . The unbearable weight I had on my shoulders is gone.HE is my strength. And He wants to be yours too. He loves you. He loved you enough to DIE for YOUR sins. HE DIED SO THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE ETERNALLY WITH HIM. Obviously I have never been there, but Heaven will be amazing. NO more pain, no tears, just joy.
Forever. Would'nt that be wonderful? Please , before you do anything drastic, seek God. Find a place you can go pray. Find a church that will help you. GOD LOVES YOU AND SO DO I.

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SweetGuyBrokenHeart answered Monday January 19 2009, 10:59 pm:
Listen, im 18 and felt the same thing. You get over it, its not the end of the world. Besides killing yourself is stupid, if you wanna die, go down fighting. Take out drug dealers or a major gang hurting a community, then you have the right to die. People will love you and you'll be a hero, if all else fails you die a hero and your name will be remembered forever. Dont kill yourself, over something meaningless.

Good luck.

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Mystique23 answered Monday January 19 2009, 7:54 pm:
Sweety, if you have no one who makes you feel special or happy then I will do that for you. I don't know you, but you have to know that you have someone who cares and that is me. Don't give up on life, you are to precious and amazing to want to end it. You are still alive and as long as you are breathing you have a purpose.

There is nothing wrong with feeling sad, but from what you are saying you sound like you are missing the affections of another human being! Killing yourself is not the answer because you would never have a chance to know what it feels like to be truly happy. Give yourself the chance to know what it feels like to know that someone cares about you starting with ME!! You can contact me anytime, I will do my best to respond as soon as possible!!!! I hope that you decide to change your mind and contact me. I look forward to hearing from you very soon!!!

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Stinkbait answered Monday January 19 2009, 7:05 pm:
no its not acceptable every life is worth something.also killing people with chronic pain is also illegal.you have worth everyone does from a baby to an older person to even a mentally challenged person changes someones life for the good.go to therapy they have medicine that can help.try new things go sky diving or bungee jumping to me thats as close as dying because you are kind of free falling for a while bet after you do that you ill think twice.hope you get well soon and remember anyone you meet touches your life somehow and you touch theirs also

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WittyUsernameHere answered Monday January 19 2009, 7:03 pm:
My off the cuff answer to your post is "What are you, stupid?"

First, euthanasia. Lets use Dr. Kavorkian as an example. He helped people die who were crippled in every way. Completely unable to function as normal people. By function, I don't mean getting out of the house to have a life, I mean getting out of the chair they're sitting in most hours of the day (or bed) and taking a crap without having to be helped or suffering the indignity of having to have someone wipe your ass for you past the age of potty training.

People with absolutely no hope for any improvement, who's emotional pain equals or far outstrips anything you've ever faced while also dealing with crippling physical pain as well.

Even in those cases, I believe suicide is wrong. However, I can empathize with the motivations.

You are intelligent. Your vocabulary and grammar and methods of expressing yourself make that clear. You aren't incapable, only unwilling. It seems easier to give up than to suffer the pains that succeeding in anything in this world brings.

Life is pain, my friend. I can guarantee my life is no more rose colored than yours. I am 24 and a freshman in college who's been out of school for 5 years. I am training for the latest in a very long line of shit menial jobs that are completely and utterly beneath my capacity to contribute to society. I have thousands of dollars of debt in my name and the worst credit rating you've ever seen. Because of a clerical error, I am listed as evicted on my credit and the business who could fix that is on my list of debts, so they won't remove it until the debt is paid. (Thus, I cannot get housing of any kind in my own name). I have no car (in America they are insanely neccesary most of the time, I don't live somewhere with any real public transit). The total of my liquid assets is less than two hundred dollars at the moment and my net worth isn't more than a grand.

Oh, and thats NOT listing the incredibly long line of personal betrayals that have come from me not knowing who to trust in my life, and all the problems with my family that have caused me to not speak to my parents or anyone else in my family outside of e-mail for the last coming up on three years.

But you know what? I could have been born in Africa, where tribal warfare has decimated families and communities for the past... well as far back as I've ever studied in their history.

I could have been a child in Hati, sold off to a rich gay pedophile after spending the first part of my life starving, then dumped somewhere to starve once he was done with me.

Who says your emotional pain isn't equal or greater than others?

I say.

I say because like me you have internet. I say because like me you probably have somewhere to live where you can get said internet. I say because I'm fairly certain by the time I post this you will have eaten something. I say because the only thing here holding you back is you.

I sunk into a depression I haven't fully escaped. Its been a long climb pulling myself out of it. I didn't so much as crack a smile from before Thanksgiving (which I spent alone drinking) until after Christmas. I'm pulling myself out of it, because I hate being an effing pussy. I have the capacity to, at times. Its easy to sit and mope and think to yourself "Nothing will ever get better, I wish it were all over"

Yeah, if you off yourself, you'd be right. We call that a self fulfilling prophesy. If you are too depressed to go live your life, you won't ever live a life, and no, nothing will happen.

You need to get off your ass and go have some fun. Happiness must be sought. Go do something that gets those endorphins pumping, and gets that serotonin pumping. Go ride a bike, take a walk, play a video game, read a book, go to a comedy club and laugh yourself silly. Just go DO something.

Thats the first step. Putting one foot in front of the other and making yourself do something. No, it isn't impossible. Its as easy as deciding that its necessary.

Lastly, change your life. Move somewhere or something. Get a new job if you have one already. Sometimes the only way to get yourself out of a rut is to drive yourself down a different road. Try something. If it doesn't work, try something else.

Your pain hasn't paralyzed you. Thats a cop out. YOU have paralyzed you. Now go look in a mirror, and get pissed off at what you see, and vow to stop being so damn depressed about it.

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AskAndy answered Monday January 19 2009, 6:09 pm:
If a person has ever smiled, been smiled at or laughed their life is worth living, so death isnt an acceptable path to end pain. I even believes it increases the pain, because of what happens next. If one thinks their life on earth is hell, hell must be wayy worse. God gave you life and it's His to take, not yours, so I believe euthanasia is completely wrong. Please at least TRY to consider medication or therapy. After all, you claim to be a nobody *which you are not* so how would you know? Somebody loves you, and when you find happiness, which I pray you will, you'll be thankful your alive, because so many people wish others were. You are a lucky man. Find something to believe in, and you can always talk to me. God has you here for a reason, you have a purpose, so focus on doing things that make you happy and don't worry about letting anybody down. Write your feelings down, cry, eat, sing, read, exersize ANYTHING that takes your mind away from the momentary pain of living, because all earthly pain is temporary. Be thankful for any good thing that happens and everything you're capable of doing that some others can't and when pain does come, don't let it break you down. Nobody can say your emotional pain isnt that of physical pain, but society won't accept the emotional pain of one person because peoples minds are different but when one gets hit by a truck it will probably hurt nomatter who you are. I could go on all day because your question touches me, and I don't sign on often, but message me back if I'm lacking anything

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triquetra answered Monday January 19 2009, 11:57 am:
Bobby,

Every single person in this world goes through a hard time, some go through hell. Some people either give up and take their own lives, but some keep on fighting to see the next day and do you know why? Because they know that after every bad thing which happens to them, that if they do something about it, then their lives tend to get better afterwards whilst those who don't do a thing about their situation tend to get into even more trouble and never can find a way out.

From my point of view, I think that suicide should only be an option when all other options have been tried and tested for a fair amount of time before looking at another option. Now, I'm sure you've looked at options to find a way out of your situation. Plus, the people who use suicide are the ones who've been running from problems their whole lives, never facing them.

Of course people commit suicide because of their physical/emotional pain and it doesn't make it right, no matter how you look at it.

Bobby, I may be 16 years old, but I've seen enough on this site to know that life is never perfect. I mean, you're 32, you've still got a life ahead of you to live. How can a man/woman (you didn't specify) of your age have no friends??? The pain has only paralysed you because you've let it paralyse you. Now, if you tried to get rid of the pain (OTHER THAN SUICIDE) and try and do something about it then you're on the road to helping yourself.

For starters, go and find yourself a job. Something which is stable and something which you like doing and something which will bring the money in. You're not a nobody, somebody who is a nobody is somebody who has no self-respect and the fact that you're on this site is a clear statement to me that you do have your self-respect clear and intact.

I'm sure that you've had some hard times in your life, what did you do then? Did you run away or did you bring yourself through to the other side? This is the same, only a little more extreme. I know that you can get through this hiccup in your life because you aren't on that cliff edge yet where you're aksing how to do it (and trust me, people have come here on this site to ask that very question and their the ones who don't listen).

If I remember correctly, Euthanasia can only be used if there is no chance fo the person in question surviving an experiance which has left them diasbled beyond hope.

I know that these are just words form somebody whom you don't know. But soemthing which I read on this site which was quite true was the fact that if you get a number of answers, then it shows that we do care about you, even if others don't and we're complete strangers! Take that into consideration.

I hope this helped,
triquetra

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scrwdlsr666 answered Monday January 19 2009, 11:25 am:
Death may seem like the only solution, but 32 is too young to give up. Revisit your old goals and dreams, and talk to a doctor or phsyciatrist about your worries and feelings. You may think that talking to a professional about feelings means you are crazy, but even people who love life still enjoy talking to someone who wont judge. Try not to think of yourself the way you do now. think about any time you have helped someone, even by just sharing your umbrella on a rainy day. at least you know that one person apreciates you. The only reason society doesnt accept of understand suicide is because between life and death they would choose life, but in physical pain the person has no choice. try to visit family or call an old friend. if you have any other questions feel free to ask me.

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