I'm in this advanced choir. There's this new girl who just joined. She's 13, like me, only she's a grade ahead of me (I'm a 7th grader). I have to admit, she's pretty good. Everyone knows that she's got this beautiful high voice, a little like Sarah Brightman's. She's a bitch! She's always flaunting her voice. During camp, we all had to watch this documentary on opera, and she goes "I bet I could sing opera..." Jesus! She's only 13, right?!!!! She had to share a bunk with me. She's was a disgusting bunk mate. She was always spilling her milk all over my papers, bringing food into the dorm, not eating it, and soon there would be moldy peaches everywhere. She can NEVER stop talking about herself. It's always me, me, me, me, me, my voice, my hair, and my boyfriend. Once she was talking about herself and says "my friend and I were watching the Phantom of the Opera and I could sing that really high note at the end of the song 'The Phantom of the Opera.' " She sings the note and asks "Can you sing it?" So I tried, and of course I couldn't, because I'm not even a soprano, and she goes "ha-ha! i can sing the high E and you're all strained up. That's hilarious..." and goes off into another monologue about herself. Now I have to sit on the risers right next to her, and she's getting worse. She's also a brownnoser. She's always sucking up to our choir teacher, and so on...what can I do to put up with her? I don't want anyone to say "talk to her about it." It's not like she's my friend or anything.
Additional info, added Wednesday November 23 2005, 4:42 pm: First of all, she's not a loner. She's very popular among everyone because she wears really stylish clothes and her voice. Everyone seems to put up with her self-centered behavior
Even when I tell her that she's leaving moldy food everywhere, she goes "what do you mean? I never did that" and won't even help us clean up.
dwarp answered Monday November 21 2005, 11:30 am: You can sort of play a game with her, make her seem better than she is. I've been stuck with choir snobs too (I'm in an advanced choir, and there's this girl who's well...NOT..and she always tells me what my choir is doing wrong.)
If she says, "I can sing a high E and you can't!"
just say, "Yeah, well I guess that means you must be better than me." or "You're right. You must be the best person in this choir." in a totally normal voice. She's probably not expecting you to "admit" that she's better than you. (even though she's probably not.) It will catch her off gaurd and help her get the hint that you think she's bragging a little too much.
It's probably just a defense mechanism on her part. If she's new, there probably isn't a lot she can relate to in her new enviornment and so she has to talk about herself. It's the only thing she thinks you'll understand. This is the advice my mom gave me when I was getting tortured by the choir snob and it worked really well! She doesn't brag to me anymore. Maybe she still does to other people, but when she's around me she's more concious of it! [ dwarp's advice column | Ask dwarp A Question ]
ScratchesOnTheWall answered Monday November 21 2005, 7:36 am: Been there, done that, got the entire souvenir line. Are you involved in classical singing? They're the worst. If you continue in the singing business (or any performance work) you are going to come across people like this time and time again and if you're not careful they will chip away at your sanity piece by piece.
Some things to take comfort from:
1) If she sounds like Sarah Brightman, pity her for two reasons. For one thing Sarah Brightman does not have a nice voice. Sorry. She has a large range but the quality of her tone has me running for the hills. For the other she is unlikely to make a cvery big mark anywhere the singing world if she sounds like someone that's been heard before. She would need to be distinctive and fairly incomparable to make a splash.
2)Spend as little time with her as humanly possible. If she brags in your company try not to let her see your annoyance- your bordem will insult her more. Depending on your personality you can act vague and dreamy as though you are not listening to a word she's saying or vaguely distainful. (I find the later a lot more fun)
3) She is probably pretty insecure at heart. People who find it necessary to go around bragging about themselves are generally looking for approval from others to confirm they are worthy people. From your brownnoser comment this seems likely.
If she tries to involve you in these petty "I-can-sing-higher-than-thou" competitions again refuse to be drawn in. Tell her she knows perfectly well you are not a soprano and enquire why she hasn't been taught that your ability is not defined by your range(for some reason it's mainly sops that think this- you never hear tenors or altos competing over who can hold the lowest note).
If all else fails offer her choclate and fizzy drinks before a performance and watch her voice crack and thicken *evil grin*
Teza answered Sunday November 20 2005, 10:46 pm: Sometimes there isn't anything wrong about liking to talk about yourself and just loving who you are. Now.. she isn't just talking about herself, she is bragging and wanting attention despretly. I think that's just sad and kind of funny. I know it bothers you, but don't put up with it. When she brags.. do it back. Say things like oh my gosh.. I just got this really cute shirt.. bla bla bla. Make her jelous! Just because you can't sing like her doesn't mean you're not better. She's shallow and full of herself. Ignoring her would be hard and it won't make you less angry, so just do the same thing to her as she does to you. ♥ [ Teza's advice column | Ask Teza A Question ]
HC0_Fabulousity_xO answered Sunday November 20 2005, 10:40 pm: She's what we call " Desperate for Attention" She wants everyone to recognize her strengths instead of her weaknessess. So she only shows her strengths. People like her are everywhere, try talking to her. Be like, "Look, I know your new, and your life may be fascinating .. but personally don't care" Or if you more of a nicer person try " I really like your voice, and you are talented, but I don't need to be reminded every second"
softballgurl42 answered Sunday November 20 2005, 10:36 pm: I have alot of people like this at my school too! Ok well fist of all she probably just want's to make a good impression on everyone. The next time she brags to you or something like that stand up to her tell her she is a suck up and that this doesn't make people like her. Tell her if she wants to have real friends she should be nicer and compliument other people indtead of just herself. She might not listen to you like a lot of people at my school would do but at least give it a shot! You will feel good about telling her that in the end. [ softballgurl42's advice column | Ask softballgurl42 A Question ]
LoveNJstyle answered Sunday November 20 2005, 8:58 pm: yuck i think i wanna go jump her right now. all you can do is ignore her and be like "good for you, do you want a cookie?" that should shut her up. just reading this got me pissed off at her....let her think all she wants. sopranos can be snobby (i sing both... you can tell when i sing soprano!) and half the time the directors are just as sick of them as you are! just have fun with other people...let her go on as a stuck up loner. <3 [ LoveNJstyle's advice column | Ask LoveNJstyle A Question ]
sexyabercrombiechick answered Sunday November 20 2005, 8:52 pm: one simple answer IGNORE her, I know its not a great answer but what else can you do? Its her personality! People who are full of themselves are usually fakes or have something that they are hiding. She probably just a sad person trying to make you sound inferior when really she is. Ignore her and spend as little time with her as you can! Sorry..it wasnt the best, but its all I could think of! I hope it helps!!! I try even if its not the best lol ok sorry!
GDROB2 answered Sunday November 20 2005, 8:51 pm: Hi,
She should have modesty but has not developed the maturity yet. However, why not focus on your own singing and have a good time? You are only hurting yourself by being so hateful. That is like drinking draino every day as it has an effect and makes you feel physically and mentally awful.
So what if she brags about what notes she hits or her ability? Tell her that's nice and go about your business. Over time she will learn if people change the subject away from her. It is her issue to figure out that this bothers people and not yours.
It really is not a concern at all of yours even if she is a slob to dislike her for it. You can tactfully point out she is making a mess and leaving like that.
You are trying to find every single fault you can with this girl to mask the fact you are jealous of her singing voice and perhaps need to cool it and become the better singer yourself.
If it is always me, me, me with her take her aside and let her know other people do not like it and or point that fact out to an adult who can address it. As far as she can see there is not a problem--others have to point it out.
Even then she may not see. But do not hate her for her short comings as you sure as hell would not want anyone to do that to you. Get to know who she REALLY is apart from this behaviour.
Stop hating her! If you cannot than let it be and mind your business and let her learn things on her own. To go out of your way to dislike her is dumb as only you know that you feel hate/anger she doesn't. It's hurting you--not her. [ GDROB2's advice column | Ask GDROB2 A Question ]
MelSP answered Sunday November 20 2005, 8:47 pm: honsetly i would flip shit on her yell at her, she need someone to tell her shes a bitch and dont "talk to her about it" fucking yell at her dont do it during school or anything like that, she needs her ass kicked! lol maybe dont go that extrem but yell at her! if you do yell at her tell me how it goes! [ MelSP's advice column | Ask MelSP A Question ]
SweetAsCandy411 answered Sunday November 20 2005, 8:44 pm: TELL Her to SHut up!!!! lol anyways, if she really is that annoying speak up or she wont get the news. TEll your friends about her and tell everybody and make them hate her. It works for me! [ SweetAsCandy411's advice column | Ask SweetAsCandy411 A Question ]
xomegaroni answered Sunday November 20 2005, 8:37 pm: punch her =) haha im jk!!!! don't worry, i wouldn't be able to tolerate her either. i think if she says something nasty to you then tell her like it is. 'you better shut up bitch' haha maybe not like that but tell her that you don't appreciate her talking about herself all the time. she'll eventually shut up. if everyone becomes annoyed by her she might change. talk to the other people about it. it might help. don't say anything to her unless she says something mean to you er juss ignore her. i know that's probably difficult to do since she's annoying, but try it.
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