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Is it OK to take pictures of someone without them knowing?


Question Posted Wednesday October 31 2012, 7:42 pm

there is this girl at my college, she's so hot, red headed, and extremely nice and kind to me,I think I have a crush on her. I see her around and she's also at this math tutoring center which I sometimes go to even if I don't need help. Would it be OK if I secretly took some high quality pictures of her and even video tape her with my Iphone without her knowing so I can have some nice pictures and videos for my own personal satisfaction? Or is it illegal?

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Additional info, added Friday November 2 2012, 12:11 pm:
abuse? Bullshit. Me beating her up is abuse, this is not abuse.



@Rahzie, yes that is exactly what I would tell someone if they complained about something so trivial. Nobody is getting hurt. What you do in your own time is nobodys business
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jazzamillion256 answered Monday November 12 2012, 11:07 pm:
dont do that. she can sue you, and you can go to jail for that, it is illegal. DONT DO IT!!

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kayna answered Monday November 5 2012, 12:39 am:
Don't do that. It's not right and its creepy. Go talk to her

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ihatemylife answered Saturday November 3 2012, 8:25 am:
This is illegal...... without anyone's consent you can not take picture or video. she can lodge a complaint under cyber law or may be u will be arrested by cops......... so please don't take any chance if u like her then go an d her
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mercury answered Friday November 2 2012, 1:53 am:
It depends on the kind of pics you take.I think it is illegal to take pics of someone without their consent.If you have a crush on her,why don't you approach her and try to talk to her?Wouldn't it be better if instead of having pics of her you had her next to you face to face?

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adviceman49 answered Thursday November 1 2012, 11:15 am:
First; you need to look up the legal definition of abuse as it is not as you have stated.

Now the question you have asked is really a tough one to answer as it depends on many different aspects and how the laws where you are attending college view what you are doing. Then you also have the rules of the college as to sexual harassment and invasion of privacy that could come into play.

The legal laws and college rules on invasion of privacy, sexual harassment and stalking can some times be at odds. Remember the college even if it is a public university is still a private space. For the most part you need to be a student of the college/university to be in.

For that reason people have a certain expectation of privacy. Your taking pictures of someone without their consent of knowledge, would be an invasion of their privacy. Then there are the schools rules on picture taking in these places. If there is a ban on picture taking; if caught you are subject to whatever punishment the school deems appropriate.

Your intent is also at question in taking her picture. If taken to court the court would have to decide your intent and could decide that your intent fits the legal definition of stalking as well as invasion of privacy. Where I live you are now looking at a total of 5 to 15 years in prison.

Abuse stemming from picture taking alone would be hard to prove. Stalking on the other hand goes along with the other charges and can add another 10 years to the charges should she or the college refer the matter to the public authorities for adjudication. Even if you were to take random pictures of her on campus the stalking charges could come into play.

My advice is not to take any photographs without permission other than mental ones. If you can't work up the courage to ask her out or ask her to let you take some pictures of her then you will just have to settle for admiring her from a far.

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rainhorse68 answered Thursday November 1 2012, 4:36 am:
Taking photographs or filming in public places is not an offence. Around government buildings (or God forbid Military bases!), you could be made to surrender memory cards or film to police or military personnel under prevention of terrorism acts. Personaly if I'm ever doing street scenes or candids and anyone, just a member of the public, asks me not to I stop unless they're just part of the background in something I do need to shoot. I know what I'd do. Tell her she looks great and ask if she'd let you take some pictures of her. She can only say no...and you haven't lost anything. As long as they're not sexually explicit, and they're for your personal use and not for resale you're on safe ground. If you get some good stuff you might be a future portrait/fashion/glamour man. Looking at a pretty girl and wanting to make great shots of her is more important than the technical know-how, you can learn this. It's 'the eye' that makes the difference.

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Teen2TeenHelp answered Thursday November 1 2012, 12:03 am:
You might see the beauty in her through the pictures, but you have to understand that the law doesn't. I don't think you should because it constitues as stalking. Imagine how she would feel if she found out. Just seeing her in the moment she be enough for you. If you want the moments to become special, then maybe you should work on interacting with her, rather than observing from afar. Honestly, it's quite creepy, especially to a girl.

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Razhie answered Wednesday October 31 2012, 8:59 pm:
Edit in response to feedback

I'm not pretending only guys do this. I'm talking to YOU, a guy, who doesn't seem to understand why this is completely wrong. I thought if you considered females in your life and their emotional response to what you were considering doing to another women, you might be able to see why it's wrong.

Most human being can understand things better when you put in it personal terms for them.

Do women abuse others?
Yes.

Are you a woman?
No.

Am I addressing YOU, a man, who is considering stalking/invading the privacy of/engaging in criminal voyeurism of a young women?
Yes. I am.

Is what you are considering doing okay?
No. It's not.

Does your lame attempt to imply reverse-sexism because of my use of gender-specific pronouns in my comments make your suggestion of stalking your classmate any less wrong?
Nope. You are still wrong.

You could remove all gender specific pronouns from my advice, and I'd still be right, and your idea of taking photos of this other person for your "personal satisfaction" would still be abusive, morally wrong, and possibly illegal.

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You are wrong. This is abusive. It's immoral and it can be illegal, and can fall under stalking, voyeurism, or invasion of privacy laws, depending on which country and which state you live in.

The other person who answered you was half right. You can photograph people in public EXCEPT when a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy and a reasonable supposition they are not being photographed. You cannot take multiple photos, clearly featuring the same person, without it crossing the line to stalking, voyeurism, or invasion of privacy. It doesn't matter WHERE you take them, it's not okay.

Your college campus is not public property under these laws regardless(not even if it's a public institution, please trust me on this, I work in education marketing - I know what photos can be taken in education institutions and what photos cannot be) and this young women is not walking down the street in Manhattan or at a tourist spot, where she might reasonably expect to end up in the background of some photos - she's attending class, where she has a reasonable expectation that she will not be photographed or, ya know, stalked.

The courts will take your intent into account. They will recognize the difference between someone taking street photos where this woman happens to be, and you stalking her to get images you want to wank off too.
The first one is legal, and the second is not.

If you get caught doing this, you could be charged. You might not be convicted, but you are very likely to be charged, and almost definitely kicked out of college. You don't have to be convicted for the college to practice zero tolerance, and kick you out for this kind of behavior.

Although frankly, I'm more concerned by the fact you don't recognize that using a woman's body in this way, without her consent, is immoral.

Why would you do this to a person who has been nice to you, who you claim to like? Why wouldn't you respect her and make the rational assumption that she doesn't want her body to be photographed for your sexual pleasure? How would you feel if a man did this to a female family member or friend of yours? How you feel if they noticed it, and were crying and scared that someone was following them around with a camera, or worried that this person they didn't know very well, who would cross the line by taking photos of them, might also cross the line in even more threatening ways?

What would you tell them? Not to worry. That it's harmless. That they shouldn't be hurt or scarred that someone is using images of their body in this way.

Do you think she WANTS this? That she would be okay with it?
If you believe that, why not ask her permission, and find out. If she's cool with it, maybe she'll strike some nice poses for you.

But, of course you aren't going to ask.
You aren't going to ask because that would be creepy and mean, because people would avoid you in the future when word got around that you wanted sexual photos of a classmate.

You also aren't going to ask her because part of what you want from this is the power of invading her privacy and controlling her image for your own pleasure.

I understand why you might think of doing this, and I understand why you might wonder if it was okay or not.

However, once you actually think about it, you need be a rational and respectful human being and recognize that it is clearly not an okay thing to do and stop trying to justify doing something that you know is wrong.
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Most of the way you might go about doing this are definitely illegal. It's legal to take photos of someone without their knowledge IF they are not the primary focus of the photo and are In a public place where they may fairly expect to be photographed.

Taking photos of people without their knowledge to get off too, is not legal.

But here's the even more important bit:
It's also immoral, unkind, creepy and completely wrong.

No woman's body exists for your own 'personal satisfaction'. To use images of her in this way, without her permission, is a barbaric abuse.

Do not do this. It's not okay. It's a disgusting, horrible form of abuse. You have no right to use her body or image in this way.

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