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sexism?


Question Posted Wednesday June 28 2006, 7:40 am

Why is it so wrong to be chauvanistic, but OMG SO COOL AND TRENDY!!!!1! to be feminst?
Why is that it's wrong for a man to hit a woman, but if the chick hits the guy, it's considered cute?
Why can girls get away with calling guys every sexist name under the sun but if a man dare say the word chick (ZOMG!!!1!! NOT CHICK!!!! *gasp*) he is called a sexist, and that is not ok?


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Nallie answered Sunday July 2 2006, 12:00 am:
Hopefully the world wakes up soon to realize that women can and do abuse men. It's sad that if a man fights back in self defense he often ends up getting into the most trouble. I think women and men should treat each other equal..50-50. If it's not okay for a man to say a sexist term, then it's not okay for a woman to do so either.

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Vikki27 answered Wednesday June 28 2006, 4:45 pm:
There's a huge difference between chauvanism and feminism. Chauvanism is a term that is applied to behaviour that is bias towards men. For example, paying men more to do the same job as a woman does for less pay. Feminism is a more political term for a movement working towards achieving equality for women. Back decades ago (although it does still exist in many places today), there was a lot of chauvanism in the world. Men expected women to stay home and do the cleaning, cooking and raising the kids while they went out and earned the money as the main breadwinner of the family. The feminist movement rallied for women to have the right to do the same jobs as men, for the same pay and to earn respect.

It's wrong for a man to hit a woman but it is also considered wrong for a woman to hit a man. It just depends on the nature of the hitting. For example, if a man lightly taps or gives a playful hit in jest that is not painful or malicious, it is completely acceptable, just as it is for the woman to do it to the man. However, any form of malicious physical violence is considered abuse, whether it is from a man to a woman or vice versa. Not long ago, Liza Minelli was in the news because her ex husband alleged she had been abusing him and she was labelled a 'husband beater'. You may hear more about domestic violence towards women but believe me, it does happen to men too and it is considered every bit as wrong.

I don't agree that women do get away with calling guys every sexist name under the sun, although I personally can't think of any sexist names. I call my boyfriend baby and he calls me a whole variety of names. This is really a subject which is entirely down to personal choice. Some women don't mind being called 'chicks' but there are obviously exceptions to every rule. The one thing I will say about this however, is that calling women 'birds' or other such names is considered offensive because it is derogatory. I can't personally think of any names we call guys that could be considered offensive but just as women speak up against names they feel are inappropriate, men would too.

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x_designerxdrug_x answered Wednesday June 28 2006, 3:08 pm:
I guess it's just "politically correct/incorrect". I agree with you, though

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Alin75 answered Wednesday June 28 2006, 11:01 am:
Ok, first off I disagree with much of what people wrote below. Frankly its kind of surprising.

Heres the way it stands in my view.

1- Feminism, in its pure philosophical form, and in the form it was originally implemented is a great thing. It stands for equality between men and women. Not neccessarily "sameness" (for lack of a better word) but equality.

Chauvenism implies being superior and in that way is different from pure feminism.

Now, feminism is often wrongly interpreted today and sometimes demands special rights for women. Often, the justification is because women have been oppressed for centuries. This is absolute garbage and a danger to the rights movement as a whole. It is not the men of today that are responsible for the oppression of women in the middle ages, nor is it the women of today that suffered.

To ask for reparations for old sins is no different than picking on a French person for what Napoleon did in the 1800s. Its ridiculous. This form of ultrafeminism is identical to male chauvenism. Its just that few males dare stand against it.

2- You are absolutely right here. Anyone who argues against that it is ok for women to hit men, but not vice versa, does not realise the damage that will do to the feminist movement. It classifies females as a weaker sex.

Think about it, the whole idea of rights movement whether dealing with anti-racism, anti-sexism or anti- speciesm, is that it teaches you not to judge an individual based on the group he/she belongs to. Rather one must judge that individual for who he/she is.

It stands to reason that some women will always be stronger than some men. However, just because of gender, those weaker men are not to be given the same protection as the opposite sex?

And btw, there ARE cases of wives beating up husbands (really). Sometimes however the husbands are not taken seriously... some equality we have here huh?

3- Again you are spot on. I have seen Roseanne Bar deliver the most sexist monologue known to mankind. Again she does not realise the damage she is doing to the feminist movement. True feminists would find this type discrimination disgusting.

Now, remember, feminism is a good thing. It has been wrongly interpreted by many, and it has led some people to believe that they are somehow entitled to special treatment. Do not judge feminism based on those people. They are ignorant and misinformed, and in the end they are commiting the exact same form of discrimination that the early feminists fought so hard against.

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Tulipg17 answered Wednesday June 28 2006, 10:59 am:
Being a feminist isn't trendy, a true feminest works hard for fairness and equal opportunities in this present world, "girl power" type pop culture isn't the same thing. Violence is always wrong, and should never be tolerated. Some people are more permissive of females hitting males because of the obvious differences in strength. I personally don't agree in anyone hitting anyone out of anger, and I don't think it should ever be acceptable. Noone should ever let anyone call them a name that they find offensive, and it isn't fair for you to down play the idea that anyone would find "chick" to be offensive. It is often used as a term of enderment, but sometimes is it a sign of disrespect. You may not care if your closest friend calls you a name, but a random person of the opposite sex? It isn't hard to understand.

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Jess5764 answered Wednesday June 28 2006, 10:26 am:
1. because all throughout history women have been treated like inferiors. if you knew your history you would know this and see how wrong it is. i don't think its "omg so cool and trendy" to be feminist its just about getting equal rights which unfortunately a lot of men don't want to give up their priveledges.
2. it is considered wrong for a man to hit a women because it is considered abuse because usually the man is stronger and it hurts more than if a girl hit a guy. i mean really, how many cases do you hear about a wife beating and abusing a husband? sure it happens i guess, but not near as often as the other way around. and usually when women hit guys it doesn't hurt them at all.
3. i don't really care if a guy says chick. again its just because i think women as a whole are getting sick of being treated like inferiors and are trying to be taken seriously.

feminism is just trying to get the two sexes EQUAL, which it should be anyways.
and i love how you portrayed girls as always talking in annoying chatspeak. not all girls talk like that.

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XoNeLLiE143oX answered Wednesday June 28 2006, 10:19 am:
i agree with you on this issue. but the thing is, thats just how things work. females are primarily thought of as the weaker sex, thats why they have men to protect them because men are a lot stronger. since men are a lot stronger if they hit a woman, it can do serious damage to them if hit hard enough. women are sterotyped as weak because when you picture a woman you dont picture a woman with huge biceps carrying a dunbell. you picture a dainty fragile looking person. so when women hit men, they usually dont affect them.

about the other thing you asked, with the sexists and all that? most of that is probably because of how things were in centuries before this one. during the medival times, men were expected to be chivalrous towards women, which means to treat them with respect and courtesy. referring to a woman as a chick is not considered respectful so thats why they get offended.

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♥ danielle
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tasuki answered Wednesday June 28 2006, 7:56 am:
Okay, first of all, "chauvinist" doesn't mean "sexist". It means "Prejudiced belief in the superiority of one's own gender, group, or kind" or "radical patriot". And if you don't know why that's wrong, I'm sorry, but you need a reality check.

Because they're different types of hitting. When "the chick hits the guy" in a "cute" way, it's a playful little slap accompanied by a blush and an "Oh stop it, sweetie!" Very rarely will the man feel any pain at all. A man hitting a woman would be wrong because it would be abuse. Women can most definitely abuse men, and it's really a shame because male abuse victimes are pretty much ignored. All of the groups that exist are for battered women, and usually they are only helpful to women who have been abused by men, not other women. I agree with you, it has a lot of flaws.

As for the last one...gee, I dunno. Why were women oppressed and enslaved for thousands of years? Why are there women today who still live that life? Why are there people who actually believe that women cannot think for themselves, that we're just here to be breeding machines? Okay, I'm obviously biased here. But I think it depends on the context. It would be sexist if my boss, my lawyer, or some random guy called me a "chick" in a demeaning way. But it would be fine if my husband said it, in an endearing way. By the way, what are these horrible sexist names that girls have been calling you? All I've ever said is "Gah, males." and rolled my eyes, which I honestly don't see a problem with. Men get on my nerves, as I'm sure that women get on yours.

Oh, and by the way. Feminist does not mean that the female is better than the man, it means that we want to be EQUAL. And I'm not a feminist to be trendy (I don't like trends, I don't follow them.), I'm a feminist because I want to be treated like a human.

-Lea

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H0LDM3CL0S3 answered Friday January 20 2006, 7:20 pm:
dont really get your question but i think i get the idea.. but still not sure. ohh and please no big words! lol! anyways some girls arent like that.. if a guy would hit a girl the girl would be like 'oww' not 'youre not supposed to hit me ima girl' either way the girl is most likely to hit the guy back anyways! well theres like certain 'expectations' that guys have like to pay for girls or open doors for them or all pull out a chair for them and all that good stuff but although it is polite.. some girls dont like it. they are independant people and they dont need guys ALWAYS and CONSTANTLY taking care of them. i dont let my bf do that crap for me.. even if he trys i dont let him. lol! sry i tryed to help on what i thought the question was! sorry if it wasnt what you were looking for!

'KALAYY

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betterthanyou_X3 answered Friday January 20 2006, 6:56 pm:
I don't think its "trendy" to be a feminist. There's just a few women out there that think women should be treated the same as men. Personally I think it's stupid. I think guys should take care of girls and stuff.


Guys can’t hit girls because they're stronger than us and it hurts. A lot of times guys don't know how hard they really hit even if they're just "playing around". One of my guy friends always grabs my arm and sometimes he grabs so hard that he leaves marks and doesn't even know it. Men have an advantage with things like that over women. Also, guys end up being abusive at times. Plus why would you want to hit a girl anyway?


But, when girls hit guys and know they can't hit them back is wrong, I'll give you that. Guys get annoyed by things like that.


A guy calling a girl "chick" isn't really sexist some girls just don't like being called that. A lot of people throw around that word all the time when it shouldn't have to be.


Everything else is just double standards. Which guys have over girls also so y'all can't complain unless you let us complain too.

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xOalmaOx answered Friday January 20 2006, 6:50 pm:
This is honestly the stupidest question ever. What does it matter? Seriously, wow.

<p>Guys usally get called a sexist because usually when a guy hits on girl it`s only because he wants to get in her pants, that`s why. That`s all most guys think about and don`t get me wrong. There are guys out there who don`t think that but since most of the guys ruined almost of the guys` reputation that`s what girls think when a guy usually hits on her.<p>

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BRUNETTE__BABiE__CAKESZ answered Friday January 20 2006, 6:49 pm:
Hello, I have no clue what you just said. Sorry.

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