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religion---and very long!!!
okay please dont answer if you cant handle this subject!Also please dont answer if your going to start preching to me because ill jus rate you a 1!!mmmk! so i was talking to my bf and he said that his mom somedays made him read the bible and he asked me do i read it and i said no.then he asked me did i go to church and i said no and he said well thats bad because your probably not going to go to heaven.then this girl who sits next to me who i am friends with who is very religious(dads a preacher)had to jump into the conversation and add her two cents.she started preachen about how if you dont beleieve in god your going to hell and blah blah blah.i simply told them i dont really beleive in jesus and that whole heaven and hell thing! then these other to girls jumped into the conversation to add some of there two cents.they said its common sence that if you dont beleive in jesus your going to hell and i said again that i just dont beleive in that stuff.then the girl sitting besid me started telling me about how she had seen and been through stuff...like she said that she knew somebody that had died and come back from the dead.i just kind of looked at her and was like,yeah sure whatever you say and tried to end the conversation there!I just want to know why people get so jumpy on the subject! why do people constantly try to convince u that jesus is real?!?i take civics and it clearly says in the 1st amendment "freedom of religion" so why are people constantly trying to get people to beleive in that stuff?!?then people start to get mad because i dont beleive in all that and i dont go to church!honestly the theory that are bodies disinigrate and become part of the earth is more logical then- there is a GOD in the sky that tells people if they diserve to go to a good place if they have been good or a bad place if they have been bad!and another thing...the bible was not written by GOD!it was written by a bunch of people who wanted to make it for whatever reason! so yeah...i dont get mad at people if they beleive in all of that but i dont understand why people get mad at me because i dont! its absolutely completely immposible to talk to these danm ignorant people about christianity!!!all they do is argue about how were going to hell!!!there is no hell to go to so it really doesnt matter!!!!i just wish some people would leave it alone!!why do they feel they are right in every way and everyone should beleive in jesus! i just would like to know a good way to deal with these kind of situations if i ever do get into one again which i probably will! i do not want to start going off at the mouth which sometimes i badly do want to because there so ignorant and stuborn but i do want to get my point across so any advice?!?!?
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well.......this is pretty long.calling people ignorant is not going to get you anywhere. trust me. also, then reason why thier so jumpy is because they dont wanna see you go to hell. personally i feel about it this way, if there is a God, i wanna see him, and go to heaven. and if im wrong, ill find out when i die. but i'd rather be safe than sorry. but thats just me. we'll all have to answer to all we've done when we stand before God. and im not goin argue about it, its simple you either accept God, or you reject him. nothing to argue about. but i pray you would open your heart, and accept him. but everyone to thier own thing. all i can do is pray.
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well, i'm a Christian, but i don't push religion onto people.. I understand what your going through, even though i believe what they're saying, they shouldn't try to pressure you into their religion because that just pushes people away.. most Christians don't understand that they can't just push Christianity onto people, those people have to be willing to get into it. yeah, people do have a right to their own religion, and if you don't want people to be all up in your business on what you believe, just tell them that you have a right to believe what you want.. i mean, some of us nice christians just try to talk about their religion because they care about others and where they're going to go for eternity, they just sometimes don't realize that they're pressuring some.. and others, on the other hand, only do that to look good in front of others so they'll think they're all goody-goody.. hope i helped.. =) Skyla
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Well You Could Always Say..."BYE!" Because No One And I Mean NO ONE! Should EVER Tell You What To Believe In
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oh man, i have definitely been in your situation before. i'm not going to share my beliefs because that's not what you're asking for. anyway, i agree that people can be really pushy- and that's obnoxious. to me, religion and spirituality, or even lack of it, is a very personal thing. i don't discuss my spirituality with other people. and there are always going to be the people that try to force their religion on you- but you've just got to ignore it. that's the best thing to do. just don't argue, say, "let's agree to disagree and talk about something else." i realize that is easier said than done, but i truly believe it is the best way, even in any situation. as for the frustration regarding all this, writing in a journal really helps, as does physical activity. i can't tell you how many times i've come home and been so pissed off i could hardly see straight. that's the point where i run five miles. and besides, it truly gives them more satisfaction when you try to justify your beliefs simply because they view them as "wrong"... it wouldn't be as satisfying to them if you just said, "well, i believe what i believe, and that may not be okay with you, but frankly, it's none of your business." and here's my rant about people being closed-minded: just as those people can't force you to believe in jesus, you can't force them to follow your beliefs. i understand that you want to show them what you are all about, but that may create conflict. people who have closed minds think that their way is the right way- the only way. this is not so, but once again, that's the time to agree to disagree. well, i hope i helped a little bit.
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I feel your pain. I've been an atheist (my choice) since about age six, and most of my friends have been religious people, including my fiance.
The way I see it is that if there is a higher power who judges our lives, then that higher power would see people for who they were, not what they believed in. So, if you were a good person, did good things, and did your best to make others happy, but didn't believe in a higher power, or believed in the 'wrong' one, when judgment day comes, you'd still go to heaven.
What gets me the most is when I'm told that my life has less purpose than a religious person's. The way I see it, I'm living my life for now, not for after I die.
I just explain to those who try to convince me that I will defend to the death their right to practice religion, but that I don't feel a need for guidance in that area of my life. I get every bit as much out of life as they do, and I am no worse a person for not believing in a higher power.
Religion can be a wonderful thing, but not when it turns people into judgmental bigots. :)
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hi
i totally know what your going through. i'm Jewish but i'm also cathloic and i have a lot of friends, some have tried in the past to change me to be more cathloic than jewish. i got so tired of always telling them that i dont really believe in all that mumbo jumbo, that i finnaly gave up and told them all strait out that i had decided to be more jewish, and to join the temple near by. they were kinda mad at first, but once they saw how happy i was with all my jewish friends, they stoped bugging me. so i would suggest to just tell everyone that you dont belive in it all and that if they are going to try to change your mind, they could just forget about or, or they would loose u as a friend.
hope this helps
xoxo
Maya
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I definitely know where you're coming from, but I gotta say: don't even try. You will never make them see eye to eye with you. Religion is one subject that should never be discussed in public, because it will ALWAYS start a fight, and it has been starting fights for centuries. I personally hate it when people talk to me about religion and try to make me realize that their way is better--and it's very hurtful when they say I'm going to hell. I don't believe in hell, but it makes me upset that they place going to Church over actual morals and doing the right thing simply because it's right. It sucks, I know. It's like they're forcing their religion on you. But, you must also realize that you are also being ignorant. And I've been there, too. Not every Christian is like this, just the ones you know. I know a lot of wonderful Christians who do not try to force their beliefs on me. But I also know some of the sucky ones. It seems like you're pretty young, maybe they'll get over it when they get older. Or maybe not. But the best you can do right now, is to tell them that you don't want to fight over religion, so you should agree to disagree and not talk about it again. You will not be able to educate them on why it's okay to not believe in Jesus any more than they are going to convince you that you must believe. So if it's going to start a fight every time you talk about it, and it will, find something else to talk about. If they keep bugging you, just stop listening.
EDIT: Also, a person who is clinically dead CAN come back to life if they are revived immediately. And it's not as uncommon as you would think. So the girl who said that was probably telling the truth.
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I completely agree with you. I'm Jewish and don't believe in hell, and my Christian friend constantly tells me that since I don't accept Jesus I'm going to hell. She's constantly trying to convert me to Christianity, which is NOT going to happen. I know it gets really annoying and people seem to be really defensive over their religion, but try not to get too irritated. They probably think your idea of no heaven or hell is just as crazy as you think THEIR idea is. Tell them that you don't believe any god would send innocent people to a life of eternal suffering. That's what I say and it always shuts them up. Good luck :)
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ok...yes you have freedom of religion...but you are atheist and atheism isn't a religion...a religion is when you believe in some sort of deity (not preaching...just stating a fact)...it sounds to me more like your trying to force your "religion" on them just as much as they are you. You don't have to get your point across in a nasty way because that just angers people...just simply say that I have my beliefs and you have yours. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions...don't dish anything out if you can't take it. I'm not trying to be mean I'm just being honest...don't get mad at them for trying to get their point across if you're doing the same thing they are.
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