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Are you supposed to do homework by yourself, or with other people, so...

Question Posted Friday April 1 2011, 4:04 am

Are you supposed to do homework by yourself, or with other people, so you can have a better advantage?

And why?

When people do homework together, without the teacher saying so, is that cheating? Or when people copy homework from other people. Or is that having the best advantage?

I thought you were only supposed to get answers from other people when you didn't understand something and needed help. But copying directly from someone else, or doing certain parts just to get the work done faster. It's not ethically right, and I thought that is not how homework is supposed to be either. But my mom thinks otherwise, and now I'm really confused.

I'm a 17 year old junior.. and it takes me longer to do work and everything cause I never cheat with homework like that. Honestly I'll admit I cheat occasionally on tests and quizzes, but I'll admit its wrong. If I spent more time studying, which I'm trying to do, to be a better student, I wouldn't have needed to do that. I only get answers when I don't understand something but I thought that's what the main point of homework was.. to only ask when you needed help. and there's a difference between having help and being lazy. at least admit its wrong.. people seem to act like its okay and everything. and then they wonder why our world is so f***ed up. from someone copying work from someone else to "get the best advantage" to a politicians avoiding taxes to "get the best advantage", its the same f***ing concept.

Are we supposed to try and have the best advantage or do what is ethically right? I am so confused.

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justagirl15 answered Wednesday April 6 2011, 9:23 pm:
sometimes I copy others homework too, and I am ashamed because I am really smart but just have a forgetful mind but thats my fault, now if I forget to do it, I just take the blame. And yes The ethical way is the correct way, thatnks you taught me something to day.

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dshannon420 answered Monday April 4 2011, 10:52 am:
You will know in your heart if group efforts are leaning toward academic dishonesty. If you obtained answers from someone you could not have gotten yourself, you are cheating. But, not your school parents or teachers just yourself. Sometimes you have to scramble and lean on peers but, that is not cheating. Your teacher will announce when they want independent efforts made.

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rainbowcherrie answered Saturday April 2 2011, 4:23 pm:
Homework is there to make sure you understand what you have learnt in class and to reinforce the ideas, if you just copy others' work without looking at it properly yourself, you aren't going to fully understand what to do. However, there's a difference between doing your homework or studying with others and just copying their work.

All through school I often did homework with my friends, in fact, I still do now I'm at university. As long as you are adding your own input and not just sitting back and letting the others do all the work, it isn't cheating. There may be occasions when a friend has to explain something to you or help you out with a certain concept or problem but the whole idea of a study group is that you return the favour.

If you would rather do your homework by yourself and you aren't understanding everything, then don't be afraid to ask your teacher for more help. You don't have to make a big deal out of this if you're embarrassed, just a quick note to say 'I struggled with this problem, could you give me some extra help?' on your homework will be enough.

As for 'getting the best advantage'? Working hard on your studies and clarifying points you don't understand so that you know your stuff when it comes to exams and tests is the way to go about that.

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Matt answered Friday April 1 2011, 4:47 pm:
I'm confused at how you can make a moral judgement call for humanity when you yourself are cheating on your tests.

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NinjaNeer answered Friday April 1 2011, 11:24 am:
I find that doing homework with others is advantageous because you have someone there to help you out if you're struggling with a problem, and you have a basis for comparison for your answers. If you and your friend both answer the same question and get totally different answers, you can compare and figure out which one of you is wrong: that's something a textbook can't give you. Both of you are doing the work, so you're not cheating.

Copying homework is technically cheating. However, I have been known to do it, especially if the homework is on something that I understand completely, and it's just page after page of busy work that will be marked. Why do I do it? Because I don't need the practice, and it's being forced on me. In cases like that, if it weren't being marked, I would just do every third or fourth question to check and make sure I have the right idea. I wouldn't do that for an assignment, though, because they aren't so much a matter of "did you do this work" as opposed to "where are you in your learning so far".

I do find it funny that you're comparing people cheating on homework to the end of morality as we know it, but you admit to cheating on tests. ;) Just think how much more time you'd have to study the things you NEED to study if you weren't stuck doing pages of questions about things you don't need to reinforce further.

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adviceman49 answered Friday April 1 2011, 10:32 am:
Hi; I'm old enough to be your grandfather. Let me see if the wisdom of my age can help you with this question.

First, the purpose of homework is supposed to reinforce the lesson of that day or prepare you for the next days lessons. When the teacher tells you to read a chapter in the text book and answer the questions at the end; you are most likely preparing for the next days lessons where your questions will be answered. If at the end of the days classroom instruction a teacher hands out a worksheet or tells you to answer the questions at the end f a chapter; that is reinforcement of the days lessons. At least that is the way it is suppose to work.

As to doing homework with friends. Lets say you are really good in math but terrible in science. Your best friend or boyfriend is bad in math but good in science. There is nothing wrong with the two of you studying together and helping each other with your homework because if you do not understand the subject you will not be able to do the work. It is also sometimes easier if someone your own age explains the subject as they may be able to explain it in a manner that you can better understand. This is called tutoring.

When you get to college your instructors will suggest forming study groups. The purpose of the study group is that some of you will better understand the different subjects better than others. By forming study groups you will be able to shareyour knowledge and help each other better understand the different subjects. You will not only get better grades, you will spend less time on each subject and hopefully get enough rest so you can stay awake in class.

That was the long answer. The short answer is there is nothing wrong with giving yourself an advantage as long as it is a morally correct advantage. Meaning as long as someone is only helping you better understand the subject and not doing your homework; there is nothing wrong with doing homework with another person or in groups.

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Donald1968 answered Friday April 1 2011, 9:39 am:
The whole point of homework is for you to learn the material before you are tested on it so you won't feel the need to cheat.

Here's the Donald1968 method:

1. Look at the material yourself. From what you've learned in class, can you do it?

2. If not, then read the textbook. Does that adequately explain things so that you can do the homework?

3. If not, go get help. Try your teacher first, and then go work with other people.

As long as you learn the material, it doesn't matter how you learn it.

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AskSinz answered Friday April 1 2011, 6:43 am:
Homework is called homework because you do it in the comfort of your own home, if you choose to do it with other people then thats up to you but technically that wouldn't be you getting the best advantage as you say, because the more things you copy from someone else, the more you don't learn making yourself fall behind in the work. Everbodies entitled to their opinion on the matter and your mum just thinks its okay to get help so in that sense its okay to work with friends when doing it because if you need help theres more then likely to be somebody there who understands it more than you and knows the answer; helping you learn. What is ethically wrong is cheating which is copying of off somebody else. Thats completely different to working with someone and asking them for help as your not getting help but merely trying to gain a good mark with hardly any effort at all which will affect you in the long term. Your trying to be the good person in all of this and thats good, your doing you own thing and your trying to do it all by yourself but don't get to caught up in it because you wanna be able to ask for help. Who ever you decide to do your homework with is entirely up to you and what ever you do with your work, you can do it yourself, you can get help from another person or you can choose to cheat/copy.

You do what ever you feel is right for you.

Hope this helps xx

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