I gave you advice. The answers are all around you and in my advice if you had ears. You "just wanted verses" and already got them from previous advicenators, so I went out of my way to do more. You are welcome, and though numbers here are absolutely meaningless, the point that you took nothing from my advice will be visited upon you in the future. Good Luck anyway.
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What will you get out of the arguement whether or not you win the debate? Just wondering...anyway, even if you have the verses, the historical context and sociology of the time would have to be considered in the interpretation. The pharisees argued, the greeks argued...Hell, maybe the most religious thing one can do on the Sabbath is to fight with your neighbor about the rights and wrongs of biblical meanings and applications. There are a ton of rules and regulations in the N.T. that have more to do with constructing the new Christian society, and less to do with pleasing God. Humans get so distracted from the point...its like parenting in the everyday. All these rules we make up to try to protect our little treasures and keep out the thieves, and in the end we realize that we have only robbed ourselves of the time we should have spent adoring them.

you didn't answer my question. i just wanted verses.

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