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Are victorias secret models' bodies unrealistic or are americans delusional


Question Posted Friday March 24 2017, 12:04 am

Are victoria's secret models' bodies unrealistic or are americans just delusional because they've collectively grown fatter over decades?

if their bodies are realistic then how are they real? every single video of them is photoshopped? every single paparazzi shot of them is photoshopped? diet and exercise trumps genetics. many top models "coincidentally" were athletic tomboys as children. many also come from developing countries where they weren't used to burgers and pizza all the time. it's no coincidence. we can't control our heights but we're in full control of our physiques if we exercise enough willpower.

it's very lazy when rather than trying to improve their bodies, people would rather change the standard, by trying to make plus size more acceptable. it's not a matter of preference. promoting plus size fashion is the same as promoting diabetes, heart disease, and other top lifestyle killers. people need to wake up. it's also disingenuous, because these same people saying you can never get to that "unrealistic" standard, or that models should eat more burgers, find those models FAR more attractive than the average figure. if average or plus size was just as good you wouldn't see so many gawking at victoria's secret models, sports illustrated models, and etc. these are real people. there are many real, non models with similar figures and it's no bloody accident. even if everyone in your family is obese you can still be slim like them as well with enough effort. i don't get why our society would rather pull wool over our eyes about this issue


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Additional info, added Friday March 24 2017, 12:05 am:
*if their bodies are unrealistic.

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lightoftruth answered Tuesday April 4 2017, 7:25 pm:
I can agree to some of this.

Victoria secret models' bodies unrealistic?
I'd say yes and no. A lot of models go to unhealthy ways of staying skinny. A lot of them have fallen into eating disorders. But not all of them, some do have healthy eating habits and exercise regularly and safely.
Have you seen bikini models?
It is the same situation. Some are healthy. Some use drugs, steroids, ect.

And yeah most things on media are photoshopped unfortunately.

But I do agree that people should eat healthy and exercise.

The whole plus size situation you're talking about can be positive and negative. I think it should be recognized that not everyone can be skinny, even if they tried. I know some people who are on the larger side and work out and eat great but they weren't built to be skinny.

I think people should stop worrying about being skinny and worry more about being healthy.
There are people who are extremely healthy and are bigger and I've seen skinny people who are not healthy.
Some people have healthy problems where they can't gain weight and some people have health problems where they can't lose weight. Not everyone can look like a model unfortunately and that's ok.

America should stop focusing on how you look. Model like or plus size. America should focus on being healthy.
But who are we kidding? As much as we'd like to make people more aware of the issue, people chose not to hear it. I mean it's cheaper to buy junk food.
And I do agree that some people might use all this as an excuse that they can't lose weight. But we can't say that anyone can be skinny or look like a model, that right there is unrealistic.

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rainhorse68 answered Wednesday March 29 2017, 3:32 pm:
I would say it is all symptomatic of our instant-gratification, 'gold stars for everyone' society. Noticed there aren't losers anymore, just runners-up? Political correctness is rampant. We are spoon-fed idealism. Perfect body, perfect home, perfect relationship. We all must have perfect children too! We are made to feel inadequate if we do not measure-up. At least to ourselves. But woe to anyone who dares to criticise from the outside. That goes against our supreme right to be who we want to be. Hey! Who are you to criticise? How dare you judge me?? Strikes me there are two conflicting forces at work here? I wouldn't say it's a conspiracy. I mean it's easy to pull the wool over the eyes of people who want it pulled over. Maybe we're all a bit delusional? Maybe we all fool ourselves? I sometimes think the happiest people are the ones who can fool themselves the most convincingly. You know, buy into it all, hook, line and sinker without question! Type-2 diabetes and heart conditions are indeed a worry to the medical profession in the UK where I live. We are getting fatter. We are cramming ourselves full of sweet, junky food and sugar-laden soft drinks. The current youth will, it is believed, be the first genneration who will be less fit and have more problems like these (and joint-wear, purely because they are carrying more weight) in old age than the previous one. Bit scary, eh? Have we 'peaked' and now we're on a self-destruct trajectory?? But if you want to make yourself fat, diabetic and at high-risk of cardio-vascular conditions that's all part-and-parcel of that instant-gratification, free-choice society. Which is where we started, I recall? We're a cynical pair, aren't we? At least you're looking for answers. I gave that up long ago!!

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MrKaman answered Tuesday March 28 2017, 10:08 pm:
"Are victorias secret models' bodies unrealistic?"
Yes they are unrealistic. every model is picked to be above average attractiveness and they are shot by professional photographers; Makeup artist, Photoshop, lighting, custom clothing.

"americans delusional?" yes.

"single video of them is photoshopped?" All professionally shoot ones, yes

"every single paparazzi shot of them is photoshopped?" No, and they do not look nearly at attractive in them

"do diet and exercise trumps genetics?" sometimes

"many top models "coincidentally" were athletic tomboys as children. "

many also come from developing countries where they weren't used to burgers and pizza all the time. it's no coincidence. It is not true that a large percent of model are from counties that do not have burgers and pizza.

"we can't control our heights but we're in full control of our physiques if we exercise enough willpower."
Willpower alone is not enough

"it's very lazy when rather than trying to improve their bodies, people would rather change the standard by trying to make plus size more acceptable." I agree it is lazy when a person trys to change the standard because they don't want to improve themselves

"promoting plus size fashion is the same as promoting diabetes, heart disease, and other top lifestyle killers."
Those things are not the same.

"it's also disingenuous, because these same people saying you can never get to that "unrealistic" standard, or that models should eat more burgers, find those models FAR more attractive than the average figure."
It is perfectly OK to find a model attractive while still believing it is an unrealistic standard.

"these are real people. there are many real, non models with similar figures and it's no bloody accident." I agree

"even if everyone in your family is obese you can still be slim like them as well with enough effort." sometimes

"i don't get why our society would rather pull wool over our eyes about this issue"

I think you are over simplifying the issue. All sorts of thing after into weight. a person's genetics, what quality food they can afford,the psychological/biologic encouragement to eat certain foods, family influences, social influences, cultures influences, how much a person knows about the subject (god knows there is tons a misinformation).

The world is not small or simple. that are a billion moving parts in an issue like this and it is more than just people being lazy.

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Razhie answered Friday March 24 2017, 10:03 am:
Bodies being 'real' doesn't mean those 'real' bodies represent something that is achievable, or even wise.

Models are unusual as human beings. They are real women in their teens and early twenties who are putting tremendous effort into maintaining the not-average, not common and not usual appearance because that appearance is valued.

Can anyone look like them? No. Should everyone try? Absolutely not.

Appearing 'model like' is not a good indicator of overall health. That's the wool that is being pulled over your eyes. The bodies we hold up as beauty ideals are not necessarily the healthiest bodies. Certainly not the healthiest bodies for every individual to try to achieve.

Are some people fat and lazy? Absolutely, but that doesn't make looking like a model a sensible or healthy goal.

Fundamentally, this why this judgmental shit you got going on is a problem: Your eyes can't actually give you the information you are claiming to have about other people. You don't actually know much at all about a person's overall health by looking at them. People can be heavy or thick, and still be in very good health. People can be thin and athletic, and actually be taking very poor care of themselves.

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