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A critical request for help. A challenge for those who like to think like detectives


Question Posted Thursday October 30 2014, 2:36 pm

Greetings!

I have a challenge for you. A challenge for the minds of detectives.

I am now under home arrest for 10 months without trial because I went for a cup of coffee and police invented a false report. My trial is near and I have a challenge, a plea for help an innocent person.

If you just want to take the challenge without knowing the details then jump to the paragraph HENCEFORTH



WHAT HAPPENED

On December last year, I went for a cup of coffee to the coffee nearest to my parents house, 50 meters away, 11 AM. I arrived there, there was only one person present at the entrance of the coffee, a guy I had never seen before in my life, the inside was totally empty.

Henceforth, I was in good mood and made small talk with the guy who was standing on the door of the coffee. We made small talk for 20 minutes.

Then, 8 SAWTs arrive, park, get out of the van, insult and menace us both. I very politely said they had not right to treat citizens like that, except for a good reason, which I demanded. We identified ourselves, and emptied our pockets.

In my pockets there was nothing against the law. Just tobacco, some coins, my cellphone, a lighter and a keyring with 2 (two) keys.

Both keys were the keys to my parents house, where I lived at the time.

In front of the coffee, there was an ancient remains of a market. There were several doors at the back of the market, near the coffee.

Then, after a while of searches in the place, one cop decides to grab my keys, test it on several of the doors in the back of the coffee's front, and the key to my parents house opens one door. 3 seconds after (before the cops had to time to even see what was behind the small chamber to where the door led) I am cuffed behind my back and dragged to the floor of the police van.

During the process, I begged several times for the cops to walk 50 m, go to my parents house and see that that key was the key to my parents house.

One cop meets me there, and asks "Who was above me?", I believe he was asking for whom I worked for. I explained I hadn't a clue about what he was talking about. He got angry, and said he would be right next to the judge and that my fate was doomed.

Meanwhile, the other guy who was in the front of the coffee, also enters the van, cuffed, because he too had a key to the said door.

At the police station my father calls me, I ask him to come to the station ASAP and bring his and mommy's keys (exactly the copy of the my key which had opened the door). He goes to the station, the same cop that met at the van met him, my father showed him his and my mother's keys, and assured that the key I had was a copy from those keys, they had given me. The cop said he was rather busy and left, without comparing my keys with the others. Furthermore, in his report, he fails to mention at all the fact that my father had been there at all.

Later I discovered that behind that door, on a small compartment was 0,5kg of Hashish and that the owner was the other guy, who obviously understood I had nothing to do with it.

On the next day, I am presented to the judge. When the judge read the report, I was terrified, the cops had written that they had made a surveillance, saw two persons approach to buy drugs, that they made the order to the other guy, and that they had saw me entering and coming out two times from the said door, to pick up the drugs, give them to the client. The client would then give the money to the other guy.

Yes, because the other guy had €100 in notes on his pocket and in the past was under arrest several times because of drug dealing.

Funny thing is, if my role was to go to the small chamber to pick up the drugs, then why on Earth the other guy would also have a key with him? Any cognitive capable person would obviously hide the key. He was busted with me because he had the key with him. So, why on Earth would he (we) be that stupid?

Of course, what the cops said is an utter and absolute lie. They did saw me during 20 (twenty) minutes at the front of the coffee...but that was all. Two guys did approach the other guy, but I step aside to the entrance of the coffee, as to distance myself of what the other guy was doing.

I am, since that day, for 10 months now, under home arrest, waiting for trial.

I had and have a good paying job (Internet based), taught at Universities, have 30 published books by one of Portugal's top publishers, have no criminal record, etc?

I had arrived at my home-town 2 (two) months ago. I lived outside my home town for some years and so I was catching up with my parents.

And working on my paid job and scientific, artistic and philanthropic work.

In my opinion, the only rational explanation for cops having lied that way was seeing me there with the other person for 20 minutes, then they open a door with my key... I believe they were convinced that I had to be involved. They knew I had no criminal record, I always told it was the key to my house, and justice in Portugal is very soft. Cops get frustrated all the time when they catch real dealers and they walk away in court. So, given the circumstances, the cop, convinced of my involvement, decided it would do better justice "for all" if he gave that helping hand.




HENCEFORTH

The big day was scheduled. My Trial will be on the 3rd of Nov.

So, the reason to this story is to ask you all for help. All things play in my favour, everything. If they find a drug dealer in any prison in the world with my CV, then put in jail for life.

Except, of course, two lying cops that will repeat on trial as witnesses what they wrote in the report. AND THAT'S QUITE SERIOUS.

I have a crucial, necessary, and vital request which is the following:

In court, when my lawyers interrogate one cop at a time, in separate, what type of questions could make them contradict themselves because, they DID NOT see me going from the coffee's entrance to the small chamber. Furthermore, while I was there, nobody went to the chamber.

The lie starts when they say I moved from the coffee's entrance, went to the small chamber, entered, went inside, came out, and then delivered something to people who had approached the other guy.

This is a lie. Being a lie, it's always possible to think of some detail that will make them tell two different things and, henceforth, show in court they are: a) liars; b) don't have a clue about what they saw or not

So, what question would you make each different cop to achieve the means of making them contradict themselves?

What would you ask. What details do you think it could be a good source of potential interrogation points.

I have prepared screen-shots from Google Maps of the place, so you can see where was what. Also, an aerial view to thing about where the observation was done.

Here they are:

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aerialviewofthezone1; aerialviewofthezone2; coffee map; coffeentrance; frontal view of the coffee from the street; small chamber view close; view to the left of the coffee; view to the right of the coffee

Thank you very very much in advance.


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warondrugs answered Sunday November 2 2014, 5:26 pm:
@Sillyrob: I see there's a good point to your username. I'm a fucking moron for posting this information here? Do you really believe that in this country any policeman or judge will read this?

LOL

You don't have a clue. They don't even read the processes. When my lawyer asked for a second judge to evaluate if the prosecutors had a case or not, the nominated judge thought I was somebody else. She didn't even read the process, let alone fucking advicenators. LOL.

I have a team of three excellent lawyers who have devised a brilliant strategy for my defense, and have, obviously, good material to interrogate the fucking pigs.

Thing is, although they are lawyers, they have 3 brains, I have 1, and I have some friends.

The intention here was to see if someone could devise some question to make the cops contradict themselves. The Internet thinks better than 4 brains.

And, how exactly would I compromise my case? Are you an idiot or just a troll? I would bet on both.

I asked for advice and you reply with a self-righteous answer that helped 0.

I suggest you get a life and invest your time where you can do anything useful for anyone, you half-witted-visigoth.

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sillyrob answered Saturday November 1 2014, 7:03 pm:
I feel like I'm going to get a subpoena for even opening this question.

You're a fucking mormon. Do you have a lawyer? Did he advice you not to get advice from other people? You may have just jeopardized your entire case by posting this. If you feel wronged and are innocent, your lawyer will do what he's studied for and get you out, but I hope you get put away for making such a stupid decision like this.

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Razhie answered Friday October 31 2014, 10:54 am:
Everything you wrote here is admissible in court, do you realize that? Posting here is incredibly foolish at this point in the process.

If you don't trust your lawyers - who are trained at questioning witnesses - then get new lawyers. If you want to know the techniques they will use to get to the bottom of the lie, ask them. They have the training and should have the skills. You do not. Neither do a bunch of anonymous strangers online.

But for Christ's sake stop revealing details about your case online. That's unwise. Get lawyers smart enough to tell you not to do this!

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missundersmock answered Friday October 31 2014, 5:14 am:
Well it sounds like they think you were involved in SOME kind of way, weather you were the one to go back to "the chamber" or room or not. You could be mistaken for a "look out" for the real criminals and thats why your being dragged into this.

On a personal note, its PROBABLY not the best idea to be chatting it up with some shady person thats just standing outside of a coffee place ALONE and doesnt have a reason to be there. If the place was empty then get your coffee and sit down or take it to go. It just makes it look all too perfect that your standing there with the guy even though you didnt mean to. You were clearly in the wrong place at the wrong time and your got burned.

there is nothing you can really do at this point except HOPE the cops contradict themselves or that the judge will ask the questions your asking HERE to the cops that caught you and hope he sees the holes in the case. Maybe your defender can focus mainly on this being a wrong time/wrong place kind of situation and that you had nothing what so ever to do with any of this. you were an innocent bystander who was chatted up by a criminal right before HE was caught for what he was doing.

The cop that was supposed to compare the keys obviously didnt care enough to see if they matched and technically he doesnt have to listen to anything your parents say because they could come down there with ANY OTHER KEY or copy of a key. it may not be admisable in court because you could have told them to do that. idk how the laws work where you are enough to be able to help you here, but it seems like you just accidently got caught up in something you really wernt involved in. all's i can say is good luck and i hope they see that you wernt apart of this.

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