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confused about the trinity


Question Posted Monday September 2 2013, 2:58 pm

I go to a pentecostal church and one Sunday they were talking about the trinity and i am confused is God , Jesus Christ and the Holy spirit all the same people or are they different people ? I am also confused on how long it takes us to get to heaven. my mom believes in soul sleep but my pastor tells me that you go to heaven as soon as you die if you are saved which one is true ?

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theperiodgirl57 answered Saturday September 14 2013, 3:29 pm:
Your personal opinion has a lot to do with what you believe. A lot of the Christian religion can be confusing, and often you have to think things for yourself. My pastor might believe something different than my youth leader, but the both believe in the same God. Personally, I think God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. He is able to offer the knowledge and wisdom of a father, the friendship and trust of a friend or sibling, and the guidance and everlasting love of a mother. While God is all three of these things, He is also one. That is why the Holy Trinity is often called the three in one. The symbol used to describe the Trinity is a circle with a triangle in it. All of these points are different, but are all contained within the circle.

As far as heaven, nobody can tell you what heaven will be like. Part of being a Christian is believing in the unknown. Which is a very difficult topic to wrap your head around. I myself don't know which viewpoint I side with. When relatives or friends pass away, people will encourage you by saying that they will be looking down on us. But then, how can there be a Day of Judgement if everyone gets to heaven at different times? Don't worry about this too much, we don't know the answer. Human nature makes us want to know, but we have to accept that we won't find out until our time comes.

There are many things I'd like to ask God, and this is one of them. Religion is a difficult concept, but the important thing to remember is to live your life for Jesus.

Have a super, fantastic, awesome, splendid, amazing day!
~Eliza

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Dragonflymagic answered Tuesday September 3 2013, 2:04 pm:
I like to look at it this way, God is the word for the family unit that Is, Has Always been and Always will Be the source of all the exists. Someone could say they are a member of the Anderson Family. That doesn't mean Dad Mom and kids lose their individual identities and just become a piece of the whole unit. Each has their own names and uniques personalities and giftings talents and also their own roles to play in a healthy functioning family unit.
The God family is made up of a Father a son and a Holy spirit.
That is what the church teaches. I used to attend same kind of church. I could never reconcil that fact that if we are made in Gods image and our family units require a father and a mother to create a child, then something isn't right. There's no mention of a Mother God and a Holy Spirit that as far as we know is just an IT. Father and Son are words for what we know to be beings with the male sex but since God has no sex, then it must be the male aspects of character we are talking about like being the protector and the provider for the family, etc...
I did some research and discovered that the Holy Spirit used to be refered to universally as a She until some humans got together and decided what documents were going to go into the official creation of the bible. These men (no women were involved) decided to change the Holy Spirit to a He. Much later I came across a book called the Urantia book. Supposedly a history of our planet and a slightly different version with different goals of the story of Jesus. I do not trust that any written article is going to be 100% accurate, not even the Bible. But this other book refers to the HOly Spirit as a She and says She is known instead in Heaven as 'The Creative Spirit' and has the female aspects of characteristics, being nurturing and creative and between God the Father and Her, She is the one who takes the plans and guideline the Father comes up with and does the actual creating something out of nothing, giving birth to something....like mortal women do. Now that makes sense. Ever since, I have believed the HOly Spirit is female in form. Did God ever stop with just our galaxy and universe and just having one Kid,,, Jesus? The book suggests the family of God is way bigger than we can imagine but that all that concerns us is Jesus and the Holy Spirit right now for our own growth and modeling ourselves after as any human child will do of its parents.
Do not worry about what it is like when you leave your body and go to heaven. There are enough people who have written of their near death experiences who realized they had died, some were escorted by their angels, and others traveled on their own towards a light which they realized to be Jesus. Some even got to walk around in Heaven and have told how beautiful it is. But each one was told it wasnt their time yet, that they had to go back and finish their life on earth. I have read that due to some circumstances, some souls actually are allowed to sleep for a while before they enter Heaven but others are ready to go in.
However, I have also read that as a parent, God is not one to condemn his Kids to hell. They are forgiven no matter what if they ask for forgiveness. But the problem is that some can not forgive themselves when at Heavens door, like if they murdered, lied, etc... Even at heavens door, if they asked, God would let them enter but they can't accept the forgiveness even then and choose to go to Hell, God doesnt send us there. No church will teach you that.
If you want to know what is the best thing for you to believe at this stage in your spiritual walk, If I were you, I'd rely a little more on getting it "straight from the horses mouth" so to speak and listen to what God tells you. Develope an ability to talk with and hear back from Jesus and Holy Spirit. Blessings to you dear. You may be even more confused as you read the various answers people will give you on here because there are a lot of beliefs out there. What matters in the end is Love. If you are modeling your life to be as loving in all your pursuits as God, then you can not go wrong. Listen to your inner voice...that is the Holy Spirit inside you speaking to you.

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amyallen answered Monday September 2 2013, 7:58 pm:
I don't know your beleafe but I am a full gospel And God is the father of Jesus Christ But they both are the holy spirit.When you die you got to sleep until the trumpit is blone and then you will go to Haven if you belive that Jesus Chrise is lords of lords and kings of kings

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