Consciousness: really that important or just a part of our infinity
Question Posted Monday December 17 2012, 11:51 pm
I'm new to this website. I'll be honest and tell you I am currently drinking whiskey and high on xanax. Avoid your judgement. I think this way when I'm sober but I say it when i'm not anxious. My personal belief, stemming from an extensive amount of experiences with death and after coming to the full realization and acceptance that I will die at some point, is that death is simply a transitional period for our lives. This conscious part(i.e. the part that allows me to do this and 'live' the daily grind) isn't the only aspect of my life. This is just one period my soul..mind..spirit(whatever you want to call it) goes through before proceeding to the next level. So, my question is: Is it suicide if i'm just choosing to change consciousness? Please save me the organized religious bull shit and the bible quotes. I want to know what honest, real people think of that. I'm not asking for help. I'm asking if there's anyone else that understands where i'm coming from. No rush on response. I'm going to save this site in my favorites and check periodically. I honestly just want to set a death date for myself within the next two decades so I can finally start living my life the way I want to. It'll just be more comforting to know a few people think this is reasonable/understandable.
[ Answer this question ] Want to answer more questions in the Sexual Health and Reproduction category? Maybe give some free advice about: General Sex Questions? Illuminator answered Saturday May 4 2013, 1:55 pm: Now I believe you are in the wrong profession or workplace which you are referring to as daily grind. We all have to live routine life eat, sleep, work....these are essential needs. After that spiritual question why are we here? What is the purpose of life etc. Now after reading and experiencing lots of ups and downs in my life I can tell you all of us are going through similar doubts.
I really found solace in the fact that we should live with conscious mind, give and receive love & care, help others and believe that joy can be doubled if you spread it.
Sometimes u may feel this world is too harsh on us, try to change your outlook towards it by reading spiritual quotes.
Observe nature, spend time in natural surroundings, see the harmony and feel the serenity in it.....Only you will be the loser if you don't live on this beautiful planet and enjoy this lifetime as you just have to take your own responsibility first and if possible towards others in your family and when you become old and wise try to give and share what you learnt with others. [ Illuminator's advice column | Ask Illuminator A Question ]
Xenolan answered Thursday December 20 2012, 6:24 pm: Even if you're right - even if death is just a transition to some other form of consciousness - there's no guarantee it'll be a positive one.
When it comes to death, we all have exactly one reliable piece of evidence to go on: we have all been dead before. That is to say, there was a time for all of us when we were not alive. For me, it was the time before 1972. And I can recall none of it; as far as I know, I had NO form of consciousness before I was born. Of course, I have no recollection of that event either, but there were reliable witnesses so I'm pretty sure it happened.
That having been said, there is NO reason - none whatsoever - to assume that we will have any more consciousness after we are dead than we did before we were alive. All the ideas about life after death, continuing consciousness, Heaven and Hell, reincarnation, or any other death-transcending notions are all based on one thing, and one thing alone: Wishful thinking. It is disquieting to think that death is the final end for each of us.
There was once a group of about three dozen people who all took their own lives in the firm belief that they would be transported aboard an alien spaceship behind comet Hale-Bopp as it passed Earth in 1997. Just because they had this belief, it didn't make what they did "not suicide". Your own beliefs about consciousness following death may seem more rational than that, but it doesn't change the fact that you might be just as wrong, and you will be just as dead as everyone else who has ever killed themselves. It IS still suicide, and trying to call it a "transition" doesn't change that.
By all means, start living life the way you want to (so long as you have respect for the way others wish to live). But there is no need or point to setting a deadline to your life. For one thing, there is no guarantee that you'll make it there; lots of people die before they expect to. More significant that that, though, is the simple fact that taking your own life is the very last decision you will ever make, and there is no backing out of it if it doesn't go the way you think it will.
Suicide is an option for those who are facing a life of inescapable pain and misery; there might be a case to be made if you were a terminal cancer patient, for instance. But if you plan on "two decades" of living life the way you want to, you must be in reasonably good health. That's something real. Think hard before throwing that away for something which is likely to be completely imaginary.
I can offer you no comfort about death. Neither can anyone else. Those who say they can simply have no idea what they are talking about. [ Xenolan's advice column | Ask Xenolan A Question ]
Alin75 answered Thursday December 20 2012, 5:47 pm: Well, here my two cents...
I can certainly agree that death is a transition. The problem is, to the best of our knowledge, it is a transition to nothingness.
It is quite reasonable to assume that your "existence" after you die is pretty much the same as what it was before you were born. I doubt very much you are changing consciousnesses.
We are our brain and evidence has shown that whenever we damage a part of our brain, a part of us dies. We can lose memories, skills, knowledge, etc as the brain is damaged bit by bit. Death is simply the total termination of brain activity and hence absolute nothingness.
As neuroscientist Sam Harris put it, we can destroy or change all parts of who you are, from your personality to your abilities, by damaging the brain, yet for some reason people think that when it is all dead you float away with all your faculties intact and talk to grandma in English. Granted I know this is not quite what you were saying, but you get the idea.
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