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The Father, The Son, AND The Holy Spirt? O-o?
Let me just start out by saying, I am a firm believer in God. He is my life, and I love him so much. :D But, you see, I was raised in a Christian household. I grew up being told that Jesus was my savior, and God was my Father. I never questioned anything. Until now. I am known amongst my friends as the religious one, the one they know to NEVER offer a drink or cigarette to. Ever. ;D I have strong ideals of what is right and wrong, and a strong conscience, of which I believe to be God guiding me. So being known as that person, my friend not long ago once came to me with a dilemma, asking me all these questions about Jesus, God, etc. I had not the slightest clue of how to answer. All my faith in Him wasn't born, it was always there. I hadn't been convinced of his presence. There was never any question. So therefore, I have no facts or anything. No shield against the questions of curious people! I only have/need love, and feelings of His presence to convince me. You can't really debate with feelings, lol. Anyway, I've recently realized; All these years of just assuming and stuff, and only dealing with God, I have no idea what the Holy Spirit is! I also have no relationship with Jesus. Which has made me realize: I'm a lukewarm. I'm a poser. I've gone through my life believing I was a true christian, and now it's sorta hit me like a ton of bricks. So after all those words, here's my question: How are all three really connected? Are Jesus and God the same thing? But, why did Jesus refer to God as "The Father" if he WAS God? If they're all the same thing, what's the point of having three different things? I'm so confused. I pray to God like he's my best friend, and my dad. We're pretty tight. But when it comes to Jesus... I don't understand! When I pray to God, am I praying to Jesus too? But the Bible says if I don't know Jesus, I might as well not know God. So according to the Bible, it doesn't matter that I trust and believe in God as much as I do if I don't have a relationship with Jesus? I mean I know Christ is the only way but... UGH. -Face/palm- I've looked it up on Google, The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit thing? But I've only gotten either huge, complicated answers, or useless historical answers. I've prayed to God about it, and I think Advicenators is where He's telling me to go to. I need a human to human ANSWER, ya know, that ANSWERS my question? So can someone simply answer my questions without any unnecessary crap or anything, like stupid Wikipedia? LOL. Thank you, my sanity depends on you! OH, side question, when I'm worshiping God in song, this unknown wave of emotion flows in my chest, and all my questions fade away, and it's as if He's looking down on me, and it's calm and serene... Is this rational, and normal? My brain's not making that up, is it? xDDD!
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gotquestions.org! This answered so many of my questions. I was on the same boat as you, and know I feel closer to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit more than ever before!
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The Trinity! WOW isn't this a question and a half! And WOW to the answers I've read also. Let me add my answer too and hope it will help you atleast and remove the confusion. Our God is not a God of confusion:-) my answer is going to differ alittle from some of the others but I hope it helps. Bare with me I'll try to make my answer as short as possible.
First it's not humanly possible to fully understand the Trinity because its a mystery and we are also limited in our understanding. So within the nature of God their are 3separate and distinct persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are all equal & eternal and they all posses intellect, emotion, and will. An example of the egg has been used, let me add some 2others. 1)Water exists in 3froms i.e solid, liquid and gas yet all of them are still water. 2)You. You have the physical body, soul and spirit yet your still one person. Their aren't 3of you. Same with the trinity, they are ONE but different persons. The Father is not the Son, the Father is not the Holy Spirit &Jesus is not the Holy Spirit. They are all separate and distinct, but they are all one.
WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT? The Holy Spirit is the 3rd person of the trinity and like the Father and the Son, THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD. In Acts 5;3 Peter asked Ananias why he had lied to the Holy Spirit, in verse4 Peter says that he(Ananias) lied not to men but to God(Holy Spirit) The Holy Spirit is God also because He is eternal, all knowing, all powerful, all present etc. So my dear the Holy Spirit is God not a thing or force or I don't know what.
ARE JESUS & GOD THE SAME? Jesus IS God but He is not the Father. As I said they are 3persons in the nature of God, they are Separate and distinct but they're all equal so Jesus is God. When your praying to God your still praying to Jesus because He is God. Their is only ONE God.
WHY DID JESUS CALL GOD "FATHER" Jesus existed both as God and as Man too. Depending on the context in which He calls God ''Father'' He might have called Him that as a man. Also as I've said Jesus and the Father are distinct and separate persons the Father isn't the Son and the Son isn't the Father but they are all God.
As for knowing God and not Jesus, Jesus said that you can't get to the Father except through Jesus so their is no way you can bypass Jesus to go to the Father direct. I differ with the person who said that we aren't to pray to Jesus. We can pray to Him because He IS God and He is well able to provide. Their's only One God.
Yes I think its normal to feel at peace when worshipping God in song as long as its God's Spirit that is giving you the peace. I hope I've helped alittle. Feel free to ask for clarification or anything we're all learning. Your question has helped me alot also.
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Dear The Father, The Son, AND The Holy Spirit,
I have been studying different religions seeking the truth. I was raised Christian, I too could not answer questions when challenged by non-Christians. That is because I did not have the truth, the full truth and nothing but the truth. It has been deliberately kept from us. We have been deliberately misled with halve truths and altered perceptions.
The truth is, GOD is a very complicated subject. A very real, very misunderstood, and very misrepresented subject.
That is what set me on my path to the truth. I was confused by the texts, but I believed in GOD, JESUS, and the HOLY SPIRIT. I STILL DO!!
More than ever, because now, I am armed with the truth, so anything that challenges me, I have answers.
Unfortunately, with this illuminating truth came the knowledge of the real evil that currently represents almost all of the religious population.
Unwittingly, most members follow what they are told is truth and believe it is ultimate good. Only the handful that rule know the real reason for the church and its ultimate evil plan.
Control of the Human race.
An example of the various subjects I had to dive into in order to find the truth ranged from Religious texts (at least 15 known religions), secrets of the Illuminati, Symbolism and Freemasonry, Art History, IRS tax codes, the United States Code, Greek and Roman Mythology, Economics and Money Mechanics. These are just the tip of the iceberg.
Please keep in mind that I am not saying there is no GOD, or that feeling GOD is not real. In fact, I know the opposite to be true. I know the will of the GOD and it moves all of us. The Holy Spirit that fills us with the warm fuzziness of love is real too. Jesus, no matter what name you call him, had a message of love and forgiveness, and that is real human nature.
Not this twisted, mutated, violent, dog eat dog, rat race of an existence that the war has us victim to. I know the war for our souls is real, and very much in control of our lives right this instant.
The Christian Bible, and others like it, are Politically Influenced Condensed Readers Digest version of an time in uncertain history. I came across the same version of many of the events in much older religions than Christianity. The names were changed to fit the times, but simply put, Jesus has had a dozen or more names all pre-dating the birth of Christians.
We as a race have been manipulated through the use of words and their meanings. Please keep in mind, I am speaking from almost 20 years of experience and research.
These are the things that I found in my research.
Holy Bible translates into One Law or Universal Law Book. Your Mortal soul simply translates into Your Living Energy. The word God is plural for many God. The Holy Spirit translates to Universal Mind. The word SIN has dual meanings in the Bible, as do many of the offerings and lawful terms. There is 'sin' as in 'an immoral act' and then there is 'sin' as in 'the number of a man issued by the government'.
Do you really think that Jesus was telling you not to admire your friends haircut?
It is more likely that he was telling you to repent, or reject the 'Social Insurance Number' aka SIN issued to them by the government. That number is a binding contract that takes your living energy. That number does not belong to you. It belongs to the government, and you are allowed to use it in order to do business in the borders of this country. The system has not changed that much. The form of SIN offerings have gone from foods like lamb, to things like dollars and property.
Our society is ignorant of definitions and the implications of words. Your assumed definition is not what matters, only legal definitions are what counts. The foundations for the social security system are laid out within the first two books of Moses.
Remember, the stories in that book are actually older than the bible lets on. Everyone knows Moses came before Jesus. Moses recruited officers for Lord GOD, giving any man who would serve, a number and some money. In return, these men would have to give sin offerings to the Lord GOD, usually a lamb or gold. (Sounds identical to the Social Security System that supports the United States Government.)
As time passed, more people signed up, the beast grew and grew; and then here comes Jesus. Jesus was saying things that opposed Moses' officers, He may have been saying them thousands of years later, but still, officers of the Lord GOD none the less. Jesus was very angry that sin taxes were being imposed on the people. He even went as far as storming into the churches and cursing the 'Holy Men' for desecrating the word of GOD.
Why would Jesus go against Lord GOD's social system of governance supported by taxing the people, imprisoning innocent people and waging wars? Instead Jesus promoted the true nature of our existence. He promoted GOD's governance system which is supported not by money, but from love, forgiveness, and good will. Now, why would Jesus condemn a system ruled by Lord God; Unless, Lord GOD is not Creator GOD. (like a Brown human and a green human, both are human regardless of color)
This makes sense when you look at past societies like the Maya, Inca, Aztec, Egyptian, Sumerian and others. They are all from different eras in man's history. They all had evidence in their culture that supported the existence of many GOD that ruled their daily lives.
Then suddenly, there is this religion that swears to the existence of no other GOD than Lord GOD.
We will start with what some call the first civilization on earth. The Sumerians referred to the GOD as humanoid race of Giants called the Annunaki. This is where our history begins; with a race of Giants from another planet manipulating DNA. They were described as being masters of Genetic Manipulation. So for thousands of generations we have civilizations that believe in the existence of a GOD for every occasion, season, person, etc. . .
The planet that the GOD live on is known as Nibiru, or Planet X. It's orbit brings it close enough to earth for Annunaki to descend from 'heaven'. This happens, approximately every 36 hundred or so earth years. There is scientific evidence that supports the earth's encounter with Nibiru in the past at these intervals. Core samples of the earths magma flow support the earth changes that happen when these two planets get close enough to one another. Have you ever played with magnets. Opposites do not attract!
Moving along, in Greek and Roman Mythology, sometime in History, on Planet X, the King of the GOD and other Titans were overthrown by the King's Sons and their generation of GOD. According the the myths, the two sons, began fighting over who would inherit the throne, and the earth with all its humans. At this time, the younger generation that mutinied against the titans ran to earth and hid.
About this time in biblical history, angels fell from heaven, caste out by GOD for insubordination. These angels came to earth, and mated with the earth women, creating hybrids.
The Family Tree of the Rothschild clan is just one example. The history of that family came to me through my research on the Economy and Money Mechanics. Wow.
So anyway, the watchers took wives, and taught them their crafts. The wives were called witches and they learned how to hunt, brew potions, use nature as a cure, manipulate the elements, etc. .
A watcher has a life span of 450,000 earth years. So when people stopped believing in the old religions, the watchers would re-invent the old religion and sell it is new. Look at the similarities in Christian bibles and Government Law Books. Same basic structure with a twist on words.
So the system was working great for the watchers. Humans suffering at their hands, their planning killing the earth, and erasing any knowledge of the Creator GOD. Until along came a carpenter spouting about how love, forgiveness, and goodwill causes abundance and prosperity.
WOAH! The Fallen Angels cannot have that kind of thinking going on in the world. That would promote life and beauty; something the watchers cannot allow to exist among them.
In the information I came across while researching the watchers, I found that the Illuminati, Freemasons, and others like Knights of the Round Table, Knights of Templar, Knights of Columbus and many, many others, are founded, and perpetuated by generations of watcher bloodlines for the ultimate goal of destroying unwanted human specimens and bringing Lucifer into power; all before his home world gets here.
Here are some links for you to get started on verifying my information.
You may be able to find this book for free on a torrent. It explains Greek and Roman Mythology pretty well.
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This one will knock your socks off. It will 'illuminate' for you just exactly where this world is headed and why.
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This is another one that will knock your socks off and explain how everyone around you is being manipulated with Silent Weapons in a Silent War waged on humans.
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This guy will show you how we are contracted through a number issued by the government.
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Here is a link to an oath taken by members of a secret society that acts in the name of Lord GOD.
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The American Dollar Bill has symbolism all over it. The Eagle is the Symbol of Jupiter, the Lord OF HOSTS. In his talents are the symbols for his wives. While we have the all seeing eye, and the pyramid on the other side. When the new Currency comes out, if the pyramid is connected with the top, the plan is complete, and the rulers are ready to usher Lucifer onto the throne.
In my research I discovered that the cross, like the one Jesus was nailed to, was and still is the symbol for the Illuminati.
So, when someone asks about GOD, you can tell them that it is a complicated subject that is misrepresented and holy misunderstood. There is a GOD, in fact, history and physical evidence shows there may be thousands of them.
The point is, the subject is complicated and the masses have not been given the full picture. I had to study two years of Graphic Design to see a small part of the bigger picture.
My research leads to believe that the Illuminati manipulated the word of Christ to create a new religion of sheep. Christ did not save us, but he murdered trying to give us the tools needed to save ourselves. His bloodline has also been hunted to extinction. No one is going to ride up and save us all from a fate planned by the cunning masters of manipulation. These plans are thousands of years old, in the final phase, and almost complete.
From one human to another, in my research one can conclude that The Father is the creator. The Son is Jesus. The Holy Spirit is the Universal Conscience that connects us to each other.
It is my deeper understanding that the Father represents your mind or thoughts, the Son represents your heart or love, and the holy Spirit represents everything that is forgiveness.
I believe in the existence of GOD. I believe in and follow the teachings of Christ, and I am entirely connected to the Universal Energy aka the Holy Spirit. I am at peace with my knowledge of Religion, GOD, Jesus, and those that manipulate this world.
Knowledge is power. Keep searching and your journey will lead you to the truth as well.
Love and forgiveness are the keys to happiness and abundance.
As for the feelings you get when singing to GOD, it is not surprising that singing to someone you love would cause emotions. Music and tones are vibrations of sound wave energy that the human psyche responds too with strong reactions.
You should look into how VLF effects the human brain and induces emotions. Silent Weapons for Quiet wars. Music is one of them. The more you love something, the more emotional you get. The more emotional you get, the less rational you become. It is planned. Those in power have a very intimate working knowledge of the human brain, psyche, and body.
Seriously, look up Very Low Frequency Machines being used by our government. Some of the books I have listed will tell you about them too.
I know you wanted answers without all the crap. The truth is, I had to dig through thousands of sources full of crap to get to the speck of truth within. You are not going to get any answers without a load crap to go with them. I am sorry if any crap made it through, but that is what my research discovered about the subject of GOD, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.
Although I have more faith in GOD than before, and live my life by the teachings of Christ, I refuse to step foot into any church that displays a cross, reads from the Christian texts, or allows the government to dictate their activities.
I am not religious and I have rejected all organized religions. I love Christ for his courage and determination to spread the truth, and I Believe in the existence of GOD. My research showed me things that I would never have thought to be reality.
I hope my answer, crap included, will help you start your search for the truth.
Good Luck!
Doktor Tammy
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I felt the same way you did. I was adopted at age two and my family was already a Christain family so I basically dove right in. I never knew anything about other religions just that I am a Christian and thats what you have to be to be saved. It wasn't until I got married, had a family of my own, and started struggling through life that I truly found Jesus for myself. I think you are doing a great job. You don't demand respect you COMMAND respect from your peers in that they know not to use certain language around you or suggest certain activities in your presence or what have you. That says a lot.
Ok, the Holy Spirit. I believe that the Holy Spirit is kinda like an invisible guide. You know that feeling you get from music? I get that same feeling. I think thats one instance where we encounter the Holy Spirit. Noone can take that away from us. God gave us the Holy Spirit because we go through alot of crap day in and day out. Society pulling at us every "which a way" but that feeling we can't describe God gave to us to hold us to keep us to remind us. But as I said the awesome thing about it no body can take that. It's a feeling that unless you felt it you won't understand. Another example might be lets say you had the worst day, you're hungry, tired, and it's hot. You are in the worst mood but then you see a little old lady slip and fall. You rush over to her and help her up and make sure she's ok. Well you totally forgot (at least at that moment) about all your troubles. You were concerned for the little old lady. Thats the Holy Spirit. What else can change your mind, your heart to look outside yourself to care for another in the midst of your own problems?
Now Jesus, I think although God and Jesus are One. God has us to pray to him through Jesus Christ for this reason; Jesus was put on earth to save us from our sins right. Ok, but Jesus was also made into a real man. He needs to eat, drink, and sleep. He has real feelings, emotions, love, caring, compasion cries, hurts, and sorrow. So I think God wants to show us that although times are tough we can make it. Jesus did and so can we. Also to be a Christian is to be CHrist like correct. If Christ is God I'm wondering are we supposed to live right ask for forgiveness to be one with the Lord as well? Do you think God's whole plan was to make humans to be part of him. I don't want to cross a line and say we are God, because clearly we are not but do you think that was God's intent for all to be one with him as Jesus is?
You have opened my eyes up to a lot of questions I didn't even know I had and even some ahha momments I think. WOW! I think trying to answer your questions has helped me more than I have helped you. lol
Please let me know if this helped and I'd love some feedback regarding my last question about being one with God.
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Okay I have to admit I did not read this all the way through but I skimmed through. But it sounds like you are on the right path the thing about realizing you weren't a true christian is the first step to becoming one. I have also had problems with figuring out what the holy spirit but the thing about that is you just have to read about the holy spirit and make your own interpretation. Everybody has their own idea about it and nobody knows which one is right so on that you just have to decide which one sounds right to you. The bible is confusing sometimes and that is probably why there are many different interpretations for it so most of this stuff you just have to think about and come to a solution that feels right. About the singing thing that is perfectly normal its God thanking you for being faithful and telling you to keep it up. A lot of people feel it. Hope I helped at least a little bit!
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I believe in God, love God and I am a Christian but I am still learning a lot on this... this question I over looked at first and was not going to answer because I didnt know the answer myself but it drove me crazy I couldnt get it out of my mind and I talked to my best friend who is a pastor and asked him about this... and I figured now that I have some information I will share with you... First question... What is the Holy Spirit... from what I was told the Holy Spirt lives inside you when you get saved and he guides you like becomes your conscience (like your own personal Jiminy Cricket, we used as an example) He guides you and lets you know if you done something that you need to pray about and also kind of tells you what you need to pray about... How are all three connected? Well you have the Father the Son and the Holy spirit... they are not one person but they are all the same God... I know what you are thinking here "HUH?" same thing I thought... but I am going to use an example this is what my friend used to help me understand.... Think of an egg there are three parts you have the yolk, the whites, and the shell.. all three very different things and sometimes needed individually for different recipes or taks, but all grouped together in one name "egg"... the way I found it easy to think of is they are like a family a family of only 3.... You have God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit... All three different people but of the same last name (God... but meaning this as they are all God with the same power) and your next question was answered with that... Remember in Genesis when God the Father said let US make man is OUR image, its not that He has multiple personalities, its that He was talking to The Son and the Holy Spirit... Jesus (THE SON), God the Fater, and the Holy spirit are all God they all have the same equal power, so when Jesus refered to God as the Fahter it was because 1 he was his father, as is all of ours, and also because that is what he is he is God the Father, he was talking directy to God the Father...
Now when you pray to God you are supposed to be praying to God the Father, so no you are not praying to God in fact my friend said we are not supposed to pray to Jesus, we thank Jesus for what he did but we pray to God the Father...
You have a relationship with Jesus by knowing what he did on the cross to save us from our sins and by being thankful to him for paying OUR (not his) debts... Jesus is your ticket to The Father, with out him we dont get to talk to God the Father... the only way we can have a realtionship with God the Father is by having a relationship with Jesus and you have the relationship with Jesus by knowing and accepting and being thankful for what he did on the cross and asking him into your heart and being saved... Remember the story of moses, the part where the angel of death claimed all the lives of the first born? The angel did not enter the homes that had the blood of the lamb on the door because this meant they were in a way saved.... We dont have to sacrifice animals anymore because sadly Jesus was sacrificed to save us, we no longer have to go to hell because of Jesus... he gave us a great gift... think of him like the blood of the lamb on the doors... His blood is on our hearts and we are saved from hell... And yes the same thing happens to me when I sing to God... I feel relief, this is the Holy spirit inside you saying its okay, we got this, I am here with you! I hope I helped as much as my friend helped me... keep faith and love God... good luck best wishes and God bless you!
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