in "dark knight" the phrase keeps getting repeated that he is a vigilante, that part i get. i dont understand how he is an "outlaw" though? can someone explain that to me?
Additional info, added Monday December 29 2008, 6:59 pm: what laws has he broken to be branded as such?. Want to answer more questions in the Miscellaneous category? Maybe give some free advice about: Random Weirdos? TimothyDanger answered Sunday January 4 2009, 12:44 am: Dictionary says:
1: a person excluded from the benefit or protection of the law2 a: a lawless person or a fugitive from the law b: a person or organization under a ban or restriction c: one that is unconventional or rebellious
WittyUsernameHere answered Wednesday December 31 2008, 2:02 pm: Ok. And here we'll have an answer from someone who actually KNOWS a butt ton about Batman.
Batman's Modus Operandi is to stop people without resorting to killing them. He uses a combination of detective techniques and martial arts to operate outside the law.
The lawbreaking was explained somewhat below, but is still somewhat incorrect as theymos appears to have never read a Batman comic in his life (well, maybe he picked up an alternate universe or something)
Why is Batman an outlaw. You've seen the Dark Knight, one of the most "Batman-y" things he does is the cell phone project.
Batman creates a monitoring system capable of spying on virtually anyone in Gotham. He can listen to conversations, follow people, and in general invade any sense of privacy anyone could ever have. In hands other than those of the wise Morgan Freeman someone could spy on people having sex, listen to conversations and use them to blackmail random citizens, learn passwords to the myspace of anyone foolish enough to repeat their password out loud, etc etc.
This is illegal. We have very strict laws governing things like wire taps, recording people, etc. In most cases it is illegal in this country to record someone without their permissin. If caught and tried for these crimes alone Bruce Wayne could face multiple life sentances.
He trespasses on property. He interferes with police investigation (called obstruction of justice) he searches without warrants and assaults people.
Batman is not a murderer, and only resorts to violence as a last resort, or in less than lethal amounts (hence the large amount of hand to hand ass kicking). But he IS guilty of attacking people, sometimes in a brutal nature. The scene in Dark Knight where he drops a mob boss off a fire escape is vintage Darker Batman. He doesnt kill, but he is not above using pain as persuasion.
Basically he is the lawful opposite of a CIA agent, FBI agent, or cop. These people are authorized by the general public and the government to do their work and must work within rules and regulations.
theymos answered Wednesday December 31 2008, 1:03 pm: Compare Batman to Superman. Superman captures the criminal whenever possible and makes sure they get a fair trial. If the court determines that they're innocent, he leaves them alone. He is Lawful Neutral.
Batman, however, will usually kill the criminal outright. He might even kill some innocents, too, if the criminal is an immense threat. And I doubt he would be above torture if he needs information. He is Chaotic Good.
Both are guilty of such crimes as:
Assault
Murder
Kidnapping
Trespassing
Driving over the speed limit
Destruction of property
Owning and using heavy weapons and explosives
Keep in mind that superheros are not usually authorized to fight crime on behalf of the government, and citizen's arrest is only legal in cases where the citizen has observed the criminal commit a felony.
Batman especially ruins a lot of property owned by innocents, and has probably indirectly caused numerous injuries and deaths. If you saw a black-clothed man blowing through a building to chase a clown guy, you would probably assume that they are both evil and insane, and run in the other direction. [ theymos's advice column | Ask theymos A Question ]
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