Hi. I'm 15/f.
Well there's this guy who is friends with my older brother.
Anyways sometimes we "talk", but I like him as a friend. My brother thinks I like "like" him, but is ok with it.
We were supposed to hang out yesterday night, but I was too tired so I stayed home and said we could hang out today.
This morning I called him and we hung out-- and drove around for hours (it was a bit awkward).
When my brother got off work, we picked him up. Then I went to a church thing with my other friend (a girl).
Afterwards, my brother and the guy were being complete jerks. I mean, they usually tease us, but they've never been really mean to me before. It sounds stupid, but I cried (I don't think they saw, though).
My friend and I were going to hang out with them, but instead we just left.
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orphans answered Saturday July 7 2007, 12:03 am: Thats what guys do when we're next to each other, you sure he was really being meen? I joke around alot (too much) with all of my friends, but I don't meen any of it. Some people respond to my teasing a bit different. Some girls think I'm being flirty (I usually am) but others can't handle it. Usually sophomore or freshmen girls don't like it. Juniors and Senior girls don't mind it and some flirt back.
You NEED to let them know that they REALLY are bothering you. Don't just say you guys are mean. Talk to your brother when hese around, tell him that you didn't like what him and his friend did, and make him tell his friend the same thing. That way He gets a clear message that he offended you.
It's very imporant you do this, or else he will think that it's okay do mess around with you like he does everyone else. [ orphans's advice column | Ask orphans A Question ]
soundslikepink answered Friday July 6 2007, 11:15 pm: You have to remember that girls mature much faster than boys do even if the guy looks more mature physically. It can be very confusing for teenage girls because you see this guy who you're attracted to, and he's taller than you are, and it looks like he's an adult, which makes him even more appealing, but he's not an adult at all. In fact, most teenage guys still act like little boys. It's a truth that many girls have to learn the hard way.
The best thing you can do is to find a guy who's more mature and isn't friends with your brother. Guys are always going to be guys, and they need time to bond with their guy friends. By liking one of your brother's friends, you're exposing yourself to all the immature, hurtful, behind the scenes guy behavior you aren't supposed to see. I'm sorry you were hurt, and I'm very sorry that they made you cry. I'm sure that didn't feel good at all - you have my sympathy.
However, I'm afraid you're going to experience a lot of pain like this if you continue to express interest in your brother's friend. Boys their age can be mean, and you deserve to be with a guy who strives to be with a man, not a guy who enjoys being a little boy. So please don't feel like you were stupid. You weren't at all. You were naive and sincere - both can be very good qualities. You didn't know you were dealing with jerk. Now you know. You can do better. [ soundslikepink's advice column | Ask soundslikepink A Question ]
godslildevil777 answered Friday July 6 2007, 10:50 pm: when guys get around other guys, they tend to do that. i guess it's to show off and act like they're big and bad and tough, even though they arn't. give him another chance, and if he does it again, talk to him. [ godslildevil777's advice column | Ask godslildevil777 A Question ]
haleys411 answered Friday July 6 2007, 10:49 pm: probly cuase he was with another guy, whenever guys are with eachother they act like jerks and put up a bad boy persona...also he might not want your brother to know he likes you...sorry if im not much help, goodluck [ haleys411's advice column | Ask haleys411 A Question ]
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