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How do vegetarians justify "ethically" drinking cow milk and eating eggs


Question Posted Wednesday September 9 2015, 3:58 pm

Most dairy cows get turned to beef once they stop producing enough milk. Also, in order for them to produce enough milk for humans they get artificially inseminiated to produce more children than necessary, their baby boys get killed and turned to veal, while their baby girls are prepared to one day take on their role. Cow milk is for cows, like human milk is for humans. Humans are the only animal species that drinks the milk of another animal. Chickens can live pretty horrible lives, too. It's said that a woman having 1 egg a day shortens her life as having 5 cigarettes a day. So how can a vegetarian truly be ethical? They can have just as much cholesterol as a meat eater, or even more, too. And before you say that plants have feelings, no, they don't, as they don't have a nervous systems or brains. You can get every nutrient you need from plants, there are even plant based b12 supplements, as b12 comes from soil enriched with cobalt. The nutrients you think that just naturally occur in animal flesh are really through the animal eating plants, so why not just bypass the animal, and avoid dying from the world's biggest killer, heart disease

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Additional info, added Wednesday September 9 2015, 4:02 pm:
Please excuse my minor grammatical errors, too. I also wanted to add that the dairy and meat industry (which go hand in hand) are destroying not only many people's health, but also the environment, and we don't live in a game, we only have one Earth.

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missundersmock answered Thursday September 10 2015, 9:47 pm:
I have to also stand behind adviceman here. There is no hard and set rules for HOW vegetarian a person wants to be because i know quite a few vegans, and vegetarians and they say its not even about what your saying its about the impact that it can make on NOT buying things from companies that have been known to abuse their production line of animals.

Some of these people i know also have their OWN chickens and goats to product what they want and have the comfort of knowing that it came from an animal that was properly cared for (almost as if it were a pet) which includes vet visits. Knowing that they dont have to buy eggs from the store that are expensive either is a huge thing for most of them.

so for alot of them its about what they can do to NOT aid in animal abuse, and make sure their eggs and milk are coming from healthy cared for animals and not from who knows where.

A few of the people i know have this "i feel guilty about eating meat" thing going on but ive found that to NOT be the main purpose for only eating certain things.

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Dragonflymagic answered Thursday September 10 2015, 3:35 pm:
there are different types of vegetarians for example those who eat no meat but will eat by products from animals such as milk and other milk products like cheese and yogurt. Some in that catagory eat eggs too. Others won't as the egg if not eaten might have had the chance to grow into a chicken. Some choose to not partake of milk or eggs for whatever their personal reasons. Some vegetarians won't eat just any veggies but only those organically grown or gmo free.

If the argument is to not eat anything that is a living thing, then vegetarians are as guilty as meat eaters for it is a fact that grasses that produce grains are living things, bean and vegetable plants are grown to be consumed, they are still living things too. About the only thing one could not argue against might be fruit and nut trees. You pick the fruit and nuts to eat but the tree goes on living. thats unless one has a problem with eating nuts that could have become a new tree, same thought as not eating eggs that could have become a chicken. That would then leave only fruit for a diet for human kind. You
may have heard the saying, "man cannot live on bread alone" part of a bible verse, but it is so true. take one thing and eat only that and our diet is so unbalanced that we become susceptible to ill health. In the end, depending on what ones argument is, really, there's nothing left for humans to eat to survive. YOu've heard of the food chain? There are birds who need to eat worms or insects or seeds to survive. They eat living things and the same for owls who eat mice. So really, even the animals could not survive if they didnt eat other living creature, flesh and blood or vegetation. It is how nature is set up and how it works. If all creatures and life on earth could survive on only air, water and sunshine, then it would indeed be a very different world but thats not how it is made up.

So if man must eat to survive, he should grow only what he needs, not harvest excess and let it rot and die. Man can live on a lot less meat than many eat, we can get our protein in many different ways. I like the native Americans old culture ways of when they hunt for food and many still believe and do the same, when food is needed and they go fishing, they thank the fish or the chicken for giving up its life so that they can eat and survive. What man does is over harvest from the earth and certain fish have become extinct or an endangered from that and our pollution. that is where the real problems lie, more so than our need to consume a balanced diet. Eating is not the problem, its how we grow our food, our mistreatment of animals raised to provide meat, our polluting the planet etc. and just not being very good caretakers of our planet which God gave Adam and Eve control over. Maybe once upon a time, man was mindful and not wasteful and caring of all living things. But it isnt so any longer.

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adviceman49 answered Thursday September 10 2015, 9:32 am:
I don't pretend to have all the answers and this question begs an answer I truly do not have. One could look at this question from a religious aspect and say God put both animal and plants on earth for man to feed upon. Giving man free will to choose between them as to what pleases him.

Why some vegetarians will chose to drink milk and eat eggs and fish I can't say. Some will even eat chicken but not beef. Now Vegans are different, the eat nothing of flesh which include cow’s milk, though they do eat some cheese which most come from milk unless it is a processed cheese.

The only good answer I can give you is that there is no hard and fast rule to being a vegetarian and people decide just how far they are willing to go on a lifestyle type diet.

Before I retired I had a customer that was a vegetarian. When I took her out to lunch she would take me to a place where we could get a vegetarian pizza. I could not tell the difference between the pizzas I normally buy and the one we ate together, other than the vegan pizza was more expensive.

The vegetarian and vegan diets are healthy ways to live provided you get enough protein from what you eat. As long as you are happy that is all that counts. As far as how others chose to live it is a case of; "you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink." People are always going to do what makes them happy and to the majority of us that’s a huge steak with all the trimmings.

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