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Question Posted Friday November 29 2013, 4:25 am

fuck the bible. i was raised a christian and untill 20, i believed. Want to know why? i have a serious heart problem, and i have died 4 different times for longer then 2 minutes. nothing happens. you just die, and whats worse is i saw my own pastor at a strip club, what does that tell me? all the offereings IN church were carelessly thrown away on worthless hoes. and the fact 60% of rape is by pasters/ priests. the world needs to realize that religion is a fucking belief.Its funny how there are like 20 different types to, like christian, luthren, cathlic, exct. and the all big time woah is, its been thosands of years and not .000000000001 evidence or ANYTHING has been found. its just plain fucking ridiculous. harry potter is a book of modern times, and it has fans. i dont see a difference in the bible/religion, ITS A FUCKING BOOK SOMEONE WROTE, WITH ALL BRAINWASHED FANS THAT CALL THEMSELVES "GODS CHILDREN" i remember the pastor saying how all sinners go to a place where your burned for eternity......God is love? lolololol. i laugh in the face of ANY church. The pastors are just some hustlers taking everyones money because theyre smart as fuck and all the congregation isnt. I would burn a bible in the popes face. good bye.

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WittyUsernameHere answered Tuesday December 3 2013, 12:57 am:
Welcome to the fold, fellow atheist/agnostic.

First off, I'll give you fair warning, you're going to be angry for a while, and you have to find a way to calm down at some point. Like you, I and many others were raised in religion and came to a point where we felt betrayed. Felt like our entire lives the foundational beliefs we were taught before we learned how to add and subtract were lies.

Being angry only hurts you. It's a little nugget of misery that sits with you, and poisons your ability to deal with life.

Instead, celebrate. You are free! You no longer have to follow the dictates of that which you do not believe in. You no longer have to be bound by the conceptions of Christian morality and the perceptions therein. You can instead discover in yourself that morality and virtue are neither dependent on nor originate from religion or spirituality. You can be a good person without religion or faith, and no matter what anyone who is in your life believes or says, none of them can change that truth.

At some point, we all come to the realization that it's not our fault, and to a large degree it's not our parents or whoever else indoctrinated us's fault either. My parents are still Christian. They depend upon faith. Without it, the world is too scary. They are terrified of death, of not being immortal in some way, of a world where there is no great sky being holding everyone accountable for the things they see as wrong.

My parents had no chance to escape religion. When they were our age, atheism was synonymous with satanism. The term "agnostic" didn't really exist so far as the vast majority of the world was concerned. They were raised in a world where the answer to not believing was to try to believe harder. And the reality of people is that if you try to believe something hard enough for long enough, eventually you will. You will see the world around you through the lens of someone who desperately wants to prove that God exists, and you will see anything that does not disprove God as evidence that God exists. Past a certain point, there is no turning back. It's like you forcibly destroy any brain cells that contain doubt by nuking them with pure force of will or something, I don't know.

People are who they are, and often (especially the dumber you are) people are who they are made to be. The people who taught you to believe were made to be that way. They did what they were made to do, they tried to make you the same way. The church isn't a group of con artists duping the gullible public. In a way, they are the most duped, because in most cases they believe the most. They are the least free to redefine the world in a way that makes sense in any real, measurable way.

And like a woman who leaves her abusive husband and files for divorce, you have broken that cycle. That is a good thing, something you should be thankful for.

It's all going to be ok. Yes, faith is terrible. It is a weapon against the ignorant, as is the bible. I can't tell you if religion is on the way out, it's far too early to tell. These things have existed for as long as we have recorded history, the delusion of immortality and higher powers which can bend the world in your favor is a hard one for many people to let go.

But we now live in a world where people who do not believe can do so without fear. Where you can be atheist and not get hung or burned at the stake. And more and more, people are turning away from God or Gods and turning to each other.

Try to remember, we're all one big ignorant misguided species trying desperately to ascribe some meaning to life. That is harder for some than others, so religion was born to give them something to believe in when they lacked anything else. We have not evolved as a society to a place where we can survive without religion, but I do believe that such evolution is happening as we speak.

Last, just a personal pet peeve, now that you're abandoning religion it's time to abandon random statements of misinformation. Pastors and Priests do not commit 60% of rape. Rape is a huge problem in contemporary society which revolves around genders and the ways men and women are taught and interact, and much of it has little to do with religion.

Now that you've abandoned faith, it's time to find something to believe in that is based purely in fact. I suggest you start with feminism, cause if there's one thing out there worth fighting for it's gender equality.

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adviceman49 answered Friday November 29 2013, 12:08 pm:
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. There are many people who agree with what you have written. Some call themselves atheist and some call themselves agnostics. The difference is that atheist do not believe in any god while agnostics believe in a supreme being that for the lack of another term they will call god.

Some people believe that the Bible is a book of Fables. To some extent I agree. I also believe that the Bible was for its time a book of laws as is the Ten commandments is known as "Gods Laws." Back when the Bible was written there were no laws so the Priest, Rabbi's and other clerics made laws and called them Gods will and including them in their Holy Scriptures.

A good example of this are the Jewish and Muslim customs of not eating Pork. Today we know that if Pork is not cooked properly people will get sick and some will die. The Rabbi's and the Imams did not realize just why pork was making people sick just that it was. So they made it a sin to eat pork. Jews do not mix milk and meat or dairy and meat for similar reasons. The real reason as scientist have since found out was not the mixing but the plates. Back then the plates were wooden. The milk seeped into the pours of the wood, turns rancid and sickened anyone who ate off those plates. Once again not knowing why the Rabbi's saw this and made it Gods commandment not to do.

Today when you pit science against the Bible science can explain away much of what the Bible says. That is not really what the Bible or religion is about. We call religion Faith for a reason. People of Faith take comfort in their religion. It makes hurt easier to handle and Joy more joyous for those of faith.

There is nothing wrong with having faith, we all have it in some form or another. Yours may lie in your doctors to keep you alive. There is nothing wrong with that, it is actually good to have. Your doctors may have religious faith for they may feel they are able to do things they are really not capable of doing. Nothing wrong there. NASCAR drivers have faith in their pit crews an crew Chiefs. They have to if they are going to win a race.

Nothing says you have to have faith in a religion or a god, this is your choice. I support your choice and have served this country in support of that choice. The only thing I ask of you is not to condemn those that do have faith in god for it brings them comfort for which they are entitled just as you are entitled not to have faith.

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