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Was it wrong for me to rat her out?


Question Posted Friday November 1 2013, 11:47 pm

I'm going to try to keep this short and sweet. I have a job, where I've worked for over a year. Next door to my job is a shop, and the owner of the shop offered me a job. I accepted the offer, and therefore had 2 jobs. I only had the job at the shop for 2 days. This is why.

My first day, the manager of the shop ("Ashley") told me that she has been having sex with my manager at my other job ("Jake") in the back office of her shop. Jake just had his 3rd child with his wife. During the shift, she left me in the store alone for 20 minutes so that she could mess around with Jake in his car. During this time, a customer wanted to check out, and I did not know what I was doing. I had to call Ashley to come back in, and after she rang up the customer, she went back out to Jake's car. When she returned, it was time to lock the door and close the shop. She told me we would not do the regular closing duties because it was already 9:00pm.

My second day, I worked alone from 1-9pm. When I went in at 1, another associate told me that I get a 15 minute break, and to just lock the door to the shop and put a sign on the door saying "Be back in 15". So that's what I did.

I got a call from Ashley the next morning asking why I took a break, and told me that we don't take breaks and lock the shop during business hours. I told her that another associate told me otherwise. I was told that I was going to get written up. The day after that, I was called and told that I was terminated and that it was "out of her control, corporate just told her to."

I contacted corporate and explained that I was not trained properly due to Ashley leaving to mess around with a guy, and that she has had sex with him in the back office twice. I also told them that I was told to take a break by another associate. I explained that I should not be written up or fired for this.

My question is: am I wrong for doing this? The shop owner and I have gotten drinks before, and I don't want her to lose her job, but at the same time, I'm not going to let her or the business fire me for nothing.


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Imperfectionist answered Sunday November 3 2013, 8:44 pm:
Nope, it wasn't wrong. She should be doing her job instead of spreading her legs for a married man and then blaming her associates when something goes wrong to cover her own arse. Don't feel bad one bit, but you might want to look for another job because there is a chance she might help you try to get fired from the other job if she finds out you told on her or even thinks you did.

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Dragonflymagic answered Sunday November 3 2013, 1:38 am:
If what you say is what truly happened, you had every right to keep your job record clean. She had responsibility as a manager of the shop to be engaged in shop and business related things at all times. What one does on their break time or lunch time even though the time is their free time is still in between company hours. Places I've worked did not allow you to get any alcohol while on break or at lunch and you could not smoke pot while on breaks, cigarette, but no pot. I am sure that there's no rule saying you can't have quickies while on break, but I would think that applies to underlings, not the manager who is ultimately responsible for everything in that shop, so even though on break should be available on site in the shop for employee to ask for help. She forced you to leave a customer unattended to leave the premises to go get her. If I were the owner, I would be scared that any unscrupulous customer might see the opportunity, grab some merchandise and leave without paying before you and her returned. One does not leave a shop totally unattended. She as manager doesnt for a reason have all the same privaleges as an employee. She also did not train you long enough. She deserves anything she's getting. Just getting it sooner rather than later. You were not wrong. You did not say anything out of wanting to hurt her or spoil things for her, just clear your name. If I were you, I would not ever associate with her ever again, not even as supposedly friends away from work. Friends do not use people like that or treat friends like that, you dont even treat employees like that. She should not be in a manager position ever again. Maybe employee. Its up to corporate to decide what to do with her, whether give her a chance to work with them again or not.

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adviceman49 answered Saturday November 2 2013, 11:00 am:
Right or wrong what is done or done. If your allegations concerning Ashley are proven correct then it is a possibility she too could be terminated. Were you justified in doing so?

I believe you had every right to write and explain your side of the story. That you were following instructions of another associate. That Ashley had not taken the time to properly train you. Explaining why or what the reason behind Ashley not having the time to properly train you is where the problem lies.

In one sense your explanation is justified because what you're saying is; If Ashley was paying attention to business she would have been in the store to properly train you. Instead she was out back or in her office playing around with a married man. That may be exactly what it was but it also could be looked at as you trying to lay blame for your wrongdoing on the manger, a person they know and trust.

I cannot predict what the people above Ashley will do after they heard your explanation. I know how I would handle this but most managers would consider the subject closed and want to just move on.

If nothing else comes of this use the as a learning experience. Always check with your supervisor anything another worker tells you, unless of course the supervisor has said to do as that person tells you. You cannot always trust someone to tell you the truth especially when you are a new hire. Your presence in the store may have cut in to her overtime. Getting rid of you solves a problem for her.

When writing your resume you need not show this position on it. Fact is you were not employed long enough for it to be important. It was a 2nd job of a part time nature so there is no break in employment which will show on your resume.

The one thing you do need to worry about is Jake. If Ashley gets in trouble or terminated because of what you told her supervisors. Will Jake take retribution on you. Since this is quite possible you may want to head this one off at the pass by talking with his supervisor or talking to Jake. Whatever you do not threaten to tell Jakes wife he is having an affair. That would be legitimate grounds for him to terminate you, though telling his supervisors you know of his affair and are afraid of losing your job because of it would be okay to tell them.

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