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School isn't fair


Question Posted Wednesday November 2 2011, 4:27 pm

Why? Why do numbers have to decide where we're headed? I was always told that we go to school to learn. Well, If I learn a lot and get poor grades, I'm "Not doing what I'm supposed to" So basically if I get bad grades, I'm not learning, even if my tests prove the opposite. I don't get it. I think the system needs to be re-designed. I think tests are more important than homework. In fact, I think our grades should only be based on tests. They're the only thing that proves we learned something. And nowadays, its like knowledge does not matter anymore. All that matters is an unfair number that does not have anything to do with intelligence and ability, and degrees that show how much of this bull you've been through. I'm starting to hate school. And then there's the SAT, which is classist and unfair. Ontop of that, the whole money thing is bull. Why should someone from a different town in the same state & country have a better education just because that town's populace has a higher income & lower population?

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VoiceofReason answered Thursday November 3 2011, 11:23 am:
You raise a lot of valid points, but the work load you do in high school is nothing you will have to do in college, where significant parts of your grade will hinge on only one or two 20 or 30 page papers.

You're right about the SAT, which is a total ripoff and doesn't predict academic performance at all. I never even took it and graduated from college with honors. And yes, rich folks do have an advantage on working class people since legacy admits at the best schools generally underperform even affirmative action admits.

However, as another commenter noted, you have to prove that you have some thinking and communication skills (unless you're a business or PE major, the two lowest performing majors on any campus) and aren't just good at simple rote learning. This is why many major firms won't hire from vocational schools like Phoenix University or ITT Tech.

This is also a capitalist society, which is as obsessed with numbers as your average baseball junky. It's just the way it is. High school is rife with a lot of wasted time and nonsensical busywork. I did the bare minimum I needed to graduate and otherwise partied my way through that part of my life before I got serious in college.

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qwerty96 answered Wednesday November 2 2011, 8:15 pm:
Yep, true!
School isn't fair but if you think about it... After all of the tests and homework etc, its gonna lead to a decent job. There's always something that your good at, it could be if your really bad at maths then you might be great at art or you could be good at science and rubbish with music. You have just got to find what that something is! A lot of kids feel pressured that they have to do and be the best at everything but you have got to ask yourself, what do I want?! So trust me, as soon as you leave school and enter reality, you will be wishing to go back! :)

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Razhie answered Wednesday November 2 2011, 6:06 pm:
School isn't fair.
Life isn't fair.

Yep.

Grading people based only on their tests would be a horribly unfair way to gauge knowledge. We used to do that. Now we grade on completion and activities so as not to penalize those who are bad at test-taking, or reward those who are just naturally good at tests, but forget the information the next minute.

And degrees are mostly about completion, to prove "how how much of this bull you've been through".

Yep. Yeps. That’s basically it.

Degrees are mostly a trial by fire certificate. Proof that you can communicate successfully with others on a certain topic and in an accepted way. Whether or not you have actual knowledge will be decided by you, and your employers. That’s why a degree isn’t a guaranteed of a job - it doesn’t mean you can actually do the job - it just means you can communicate about the job successfully.

And money is unfair and grades are unfair and taxes are unfair and the town you are born in is unfair and the parents you are born to is unfair and whether you are naturally good at math or not is unfair or bad at reading is unfair or didn't speak English till you were 10 is unfair and whether you are attractive or not is unfair and if you have bad teeth its unfair and mommy wouldn’t let me have a puppy it’s unfair…

Living with other people, means living in an imperfect world. Smart people learn to get by. They jump through some of the hoops. They make the system work for them. They figure out how much or little they want. They accept a degree of unfairness in their lives, even while fighting against it on their own behalf and on the behalf of others.

There are lots of valid criticism of education and taxes and tests... of the whole world we live in! But you have made valid criticism here, or constructive arguments. You've whined. You’ve whined about the blatantly obvious truths of the world. And that's okay, because it's NOT perfectly fair.

But you don’t get to go on whining forever. You say you are smart. You’ll have to prove it one way or another. If the education system doesn’t do it for you, join the many people who are working through the system and in the system to make it fairer. You can't opt out of life and you can't escape the judgement of others. If you are as smart as you think you are, make it work.

It will still not be perfectly fair, but you might actually get someplace.

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