Okay, I just don't understand this emo/goth trend. So I have some questions:
1. How come all emo kids say how unique and individual they are, but they all dress the same and look the same?
2. They say that labels are bad, but some go parading around their weirdness (AKA emo-ness). How is that supposed to work?
3. If you're kid was emo and stuff, would you cry? I know I certainly would. (This is the poll question.)
4. How did emo-ness come to be? I thought this world was supposed to be a happy place. Why do they insist on draping dark hair over their faces and obscuring their eyes with black liner if the world is such a sunny beautiful place?
Any help to eliminate these people *cough* I mean help me understand this clique is appreciated.
[ Answer this question ] Want to answer more questions in the Miscellaneous category? Maybe give some free advice about: Fashion and Styles? Jeanne answered Wednesday December 12 2007, 3:53 am: 1) It's not just emo kids who do this; it's anyone who wears clothes that are in style, whatever that style happens to be. Everyone wants to be seen in a certain way... a way that reflects their unique personality. When you see something new and different that will make you stand out and show your individuality, you buy it. But so do a lot of other people... and pretty soon, it's not so unique anymore. But it still reflects your taste and personality... and if that's the way you want to be seen, you continue to wear it. For a while, at least. Eventually it goes out of style, because everyone starts looking for something new to make them different.
2) They're making a statement. The emo style started out as a way of rebelling against labels. But it's become a label in itself now. Pretty soon, the people who want to be seen as rebelling against labels will start dressing in some new way.
3) If my kid was emo, it'd probably be because (1) They're sad and feel misunderstood (in which case I'd try to help them), or (2) They think it's cool (in which case I'd realize it's just a phase that will probably pass soon enough).
4) Yes, it would be great if the world was a happy place. But sadly, it's not a happy place for everyone all the time. Some people have it pretty tough, and go through periods when they have trouble dealing with things. Some people are good at faking it, pretending everything is wonderful when really it's not. I think emo kids have the attitude of, "Why fake it? I'm not happy, so why should I pretend to be?" They want to show they're being honest and not hiding their feelings.
It'd be great if we could eliminate troubles and sadness, but I certainly wouldn't want to elminate someone just because they're emo. Most of the emo people I know are actually really, really nice! [ Jeanne's advice column | Ask Jeanne A Question ]
WittyUsernameHere answered Wednesday December 12 2007, 2:17 am: Everyone wants to belong to something. Humans are social creatures, and when people do not find acceptance in one group or another, they eventually create their own.
That pretty much explains 1.
1) Emo kids are saying that they are unique from everyone else. They differentiate from other groups by acting and dressing differently. Its amusing because they call themselves nonconformists and the way to be a non conformist like them is to conform to THEIR views and do things the way they want you to.
2) Kind of the same as the above. Kids are immature. They dont like other people's labels, but because everyone HAS a label they arent comfy going without. They just create their own and demand that everyone call them by whatever label they create for themselves. Once again, they want to be like everyone else, but they don't feel accepted by everyone else and so they isolate themselves.
3) If my kid were emo I would wait for the phase to end and pray that it did. Though, hopefully my kids will be more levelheaded than that.
4) It came to be because people needed something to identify with and they just happened to choose "dark" as something to identify with. Those were gothic people. They were generally obsessed with death and darkness and contemplated things like this.
Emo came out of Goth. When you take whiny angsty teens and turn Goth into something mainstream, it became "emo"
So yeah, everyone who is emo could be considered a whiny goth poser.
Generally speaking, these people are to be pitied. They feel alone, they don't fit in for some reason, and so they found a new group to fit in with, who accepts misfits and social rejects. Either that, or they simply want to flaunt their inner drama whore. Ignore them if nothing else. [ WittyUsernameHere's advice column | Ask WittyUsernameHere A Question ]
INEEDHELPBAD answered Wednesday December 12 2007, 1:51 am: i dont judge people but now a days people are trying to be so 'scene' but there not being themselves. there just trying to follow a croud. because they think its so cool.
ciao77 answered Wednesday December 12 2007, 12:57 am: I sometimes wonder the same things. I completely respect people who wear certain things, or are into a certain scene...but only if they do it for themselves, and not to make a statement or stand apart from everyone else. In my eyes, that would also be following a trend (the thing they're supposedly against).
So, to give you my take on your questions:
1) I think the whole point of people following the gothic or emo trend is to go against the mainstream, and be individual, whether it is through wearing dark clothing, or listening to a certain type of music, or whatever. But when you have a whole group of people dressing the same, and following the same ideals of being unique and individual, then they are, by definition, following a trend. It's just a different trend (in this case, going against the mainstream). To me, a trend is a trend.
2) I guess this ties into number 1. I wouldn't call these people weird. They are trying to be different. I think that really, it's about making a statement, " I am unique/belong to my own crowd." You know what, they are so against cliques, and yet they are by default forming their own clique. I don't know if that answers your questions.
3) I wouldn't cry if my kid were emo. Kids follow certain fads or trends, and have so many phases, especially during the teen years...so anyway, even if it weren't a passing phase, you should be accepting of your child no matter what. Dressing a certain way certainly does not define who a person is inside.
4) The fact that many dress that way doesn't mean that they find the world to be a sad place. That's just how some people like to dress..but I guess some people take it to the extreme, and say it completely sucks, rather than finding a balance.
I guess to sum it up, just as wearing designer clothing and carrying the latest cell phone is a trend, so is being goth or emo. The only thing is that both trends are on opposite sides of the spectrum.
Anyway, a lot of people go through phases/cliques...their clique is to pretend that they don't belong to one.. To pretend that they do not follow any fashion or anything...well, you know what, dark clothing is a fashion. Dressing and acting that way is also a clique, even if it does not follow the conventional stereotype of a school clique. [ ciao77's advice column | Ask ciao77 A Question ]
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