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Mens rights movement?


Question Posted Wednesday October 26 2011, 1:02 am

Can someone explain what the Mens rights movement is? What I hear is it is an "equal rights" group...but isn't that what feminism is? Yet men claim they are not misogynists but criticize feminism?

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Razlo-MRA answered Friday October 28 2011, 12:24 am:
The Men's Rights Movement is everything feminist movement claimed it was, but wasn't. The men (& women) of the men's rights movement are taking up the cause of true egalitarianism.
If you want to know more about what the Men's Rights Movement is about, there is no better place to go than A Voice For Men:
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One of the goals of MRA's (men's rights activists) is for society to start to consider women to be men's equals, & therefore hold them to the exact same standards of accountability & responsibility as men. There is no greater opposition to this than feminism which is why MRA's & feminists butt heads so much. This anti-feminist platform is why MRAs are so commonly perceived to be anti-woman. How utterly absurd. To oppose feminism is not to oppose women's rights, in fact, opposing feminism should be the default position of anybody who is for genuine equality.
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WittyUsernameHere answered Wednesday October 26 2011, 7:43 pm:
Mens rights activists are generally entitled misogynists whining about the loss of privilege they feel they deserve. The primary hallmark of MRAs is that they don't actively do anything to address any of the issues which they claim to care about. They use legitimate issues for men as a smokescreen to cover any internal recognition of the fact that they don't actually do anything but whine, advocate rape apologism and other similarly reprehensible viewpoints, and circle jerk over their varied ideas of what feminism is which usually involves extended straw man arguments and bigotry/misogyny.

Any MRA who criticizes feminism shows that he falls pretty much directly into my above generalization. In truth the two movements (when legitimate on the MRA side) have much in common and are about the recognition of each sex/gender as a collective of individuals and not members of a stereotype which everyone is required to adhere to. Legitimate advocates for Men's Rights recognize that both men and women are fettered by roles which we have created as a society and are more interested in figuring out solutions than assigning blame.

People like this (from my anecdotal experience) make up less than 1% of men's rights activists with the rest thinking back to the glory days when you could get a woman drunk, date rape her, and it made you a stud who knew what women wanted and how to talk to them.

I'm a guy, for the record.

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NoFalsePromises answered Wednesday October 26 2011, 1:47 am:
The Mens rights movements members attitudes vary greatly. Most are not sexist or misogynists, but there are a few which is just a sad reality.
The MRM does want equality but feel neglected by feminists. Feminism was a movement for equality originally but MRA (Mens rights activists) state that while feminism did contribute to society in a positive way in the past, these "equality" policies were intended to suit half of the population, without looking at the other half.
As humans trying to pursue a greater balance, we have to understand that equality is not about taking, but mutually sympathetic compromise of which we have not seen.

Here are some examples of concerns:
~Lack of financial equality between divorced parents. (Cultural marxist welfare policies like alimony).
~Lack of representation for men in family courts.
~Misandry (Hatred of Men, Greek "Misos for hate and Andro for Men) is becoming more excepted by the media.
~Bias in criminal law (A female pedophile does not get media attention, gets light punishment. A male pedophile is a news feature that faces long prison terms.
~ Men and Women are both capable of abusing the other. The public focus is mainly on men as the primary criminal.
~ The public "women are victims, men are predators" viewpoint is pretty much a doxa, despite the evidence.
~ 80% of successful suicides are comprised of men.
~ Slapping a man or boy is OK in a feminist society.
~ Boys from broken homes see drugs and sex as liable ways of achieving manhood.
~ Lack of funding and advocacy for Prostate cancer

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