some cultures say women are completely usless and should have litterally no rights that a man has. in my experience i call this totally wrong, and im pretty feminist for a guy. like on tv everyone important, or in the picture is men, men men men men men. it makes me sick. so what do u think??
WittyUsernameHere answered Thursday March 11 2010, 4:01 pm: I think you need to chill out.
Having opinions is great, supporting your opinions is great, and your specific opinions are both correct and great. However, guys who go off the deep end as "feminists" generally just look like they're overcompensating.
You're not a woman, and so while you can be outraged, you'll never really be able to relate. Your outrage has little basis. Also, Women's rights/Women's Lib and Feminism are not the same things. I sincerely doubt you're a feminist, unless you hate yourself for being a man.
You should educate yourself. If you think modern attitudes are bad, you should look back to the origins of the Catholic Church, witch burnings in Europe, so on and so forth. Women were not always second class citizens, relegated to art pieces, sex objects, and servants/property. That was changed as part of an effort to establish the male dominated world we live in now, to vilify sex and other such natural impulses in such a way to make the masses feel like they needed religion to save them from themselves.
Understanding the history will broaden your horizons alot, we're literally just coming out of a 2000 year dark age for women. So rather than outrage, you should try to focus a little more on hope.
Things are getting better. Slow as hell, but they are getting better.
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Something said below reminded me of some research I did a few months ago.
Psychologically speaking, most people relate to each other on a level of masculine/feminine. Even among homosexual couples, there is usually one with more masculine traits and one who is generally more feminine. Whether by God or Nature we were designed so that masculine and feminine are two halves of a whole.
And for 2000 years, the world has been run entirely from the perspective of only one half of that whole. I've been studying the history of the eradication of women from places of power, how they were systematically cut out of government and religion first, then were removed from power within the community through things like the witch burnings in Europe hundreds of years ago, and the vilification of sex I mentioned earlier. Finally it moved into the home where women were relieved of their rights as people, essentially removing the female voice from our collective histories for millenia with a few notable exceptions (Joan of Arc is a fascinating historical figure)
In fact, it wasn't until the rise of regular monarchies where royal blood meant more than gender that women began to rise in social and cultural power again.
What I'm actually studying is the visible effects throughout history on our leadership, our cultural changes, advancements, and regressions, and the general impact on the world of being ruled only by testosterone for so long.
The poster below said that men and women are different, but still equal. Thats exactly right. The thinking that's been propogated all that time is that men and women are separate from each other, and that they have value and potential each their own.
Thats patentedly false. We're two parts of one thing, a reflection of the duality of nature. One is not capable of existing without the other, and we're a really fucked up world full of people for having forgotten that for so long.
For a close to home example, take a look at the American criminal justice system. If men are usually associated with power and aggression, then women are associated with empathy and forethought.
I think anyone who knows anything about our prisons and justice system could tell you that if our system lacks anything, its empathy and forethought. These are the things we've done to ourselves as a consequence of vilifying and dismissing the female perspective from our cultural psyche. [ WittyUsernameHere's advice column | Ask WittyUsernameHere A Question ]
SarcasticGreetings answered Wednesday March 10 2010, 8:29 pm: I think it's pretty ridiculous.
I'm female, so obviously I wouldn't be AGAINST rights. But it's kind of mind-numbing to think about the fact that having a penis can make you superior to another human being.
And then there's the whole 'fag'/'gay' insult. If a guy has ANY feminine traits, he's labeled a fag. You show emotions, you must be gay. Only chicks can show emotions. Sigh. In fact, a shitload of insults out there ONLY apply to women. The double standard is insane.
If a woman has a lot of sex, she's a WHORE. If a guy has a lot of sex, he's MANLY. He can get chicks. He's a WINNER.
And women are still underpaid.
But even from birth, we're treated differently. Boys get blue rooms & clothes, girls get pink stuff. Parents buy their sons trains and cars; they buy dolls for their daughters. AND POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT. Parent sees son playing with a doll, they react negatively. If they see their son playing with a toy car, they react more positively. Kids pick up on this and follow what is "acceptable".
I mean, men and women ARE different. Aside from the obvious anatomical differences, there's differences in frontal lobe size (part of the brain to do with planning and self-control) and stuff like that. We're designed to act differently. But I don't think that that means that one sex is better than another. We're just DIFFERENT.
Is equality too much to ask for? I guess so. The only thing we can do is suck it up. Shit like this has been around for thousands of years and it's not about to change now.
To summarize: yes, it sucks. Yes, it's not fair. But that's just how society shaped it. I think mankind can't be at ease unless there is a gender, race, etc. to pick on.
There's .. ONE place I can think of that's the total opposite of this. The name escaped me, but it's an island civilization in which the women are in charge and looked up to.
christina answered Wednesday March 10 2010, 8:18 pm: I think women are just as important than men. We both contribute to society equally. A female can be president, they can be an athlete, they can be whatever they want, and males are not the ones who get to determine that.
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