timmain answered Wednesday October 22 2003, 11:09 am: Oh, yes I know how annoying it can be to hear people whine about equality. Back in the 1950s all the african americans did was whine, whine, whine. White supremacy this, abolish segregation that. DAMN people! What do we have to DO? Treat you like WHITE FOLKS???
What do these feminists want, anyway? To be treated like they're just as good as MEN? Whine whine whine. Male supremacy this, no means no that. I mean hell, you didn't pay for dinner for the pleasure of her company (how silly would that be?), you didn't ASK her to dinner (did you?), the least she can do is rip off her own dress without screaming date rape. Honestly. [ timmain's advice column | Ask timmain A Question ]
Invisible_Kate answered Tuesday October 21 2003, 7:37 pm: Feminists I know do not whine. Equality is something we shouldn't even have to ask for in the first place. I personally don't expect guys to pamper me or open doors for me. They can do it out of kindness, and usually, I'll go right ahead and open the next door for them. Its common courtesy. [ Invisible_Kate's advice column | Ask Invisible_Kate A Question ]
Gealach answered Friday October 10 2003, 12:32 am: lookie here, not many of us whine...i'll admit, a few do...i occasionaly sound whiney...but in general we're not sitting around going "tche, it's not faiiiiiiiiirrrrr....sttttoooooopppp ittt"...we take stands and try to promote equality. secondly, i will open the door for any guy, and do not expect someone to open a door for me...but when someone (guy or gal) opens a door for me i think it's nice and polite and so on. same goes with paying for things...sometime's i'll buy my guy friends lunch, sometimes they'll buy me lunch...sometimes we'll both get our own lunch...when i had a boyfriend it went the same way.
i think you need to realize that just because a woman might want a bit of curtacy from her boyfriend doesn't mean she's suggesting he has to get things for her. [ Gealach's advice column | Ask Gealach A Question ]
spacefem answered Wednesday October 1 2003, 10:33 pm: First off, we don't "whine" about equality, it's just something we kind of expect. We are requesting that you treat us like intellectual and emotional equals, pay us the same wages for our work as you would a man, punish criminals who commit crimes against us around the world, etc. I don't see how that's "whining". Now that I've said that, I don't think paying a check or opening a door is a sign that you don't see someone as your equal, it's just a sign that you care about someone and feel honored to spend time with them. Judging from the tone of your e-mail, you should feel very honored to spend time with any woman in a relationship context. If you ask someone out, you should pay for the date. After a few dates, if she wants to pay for your dinner or hold a door open for you, that's fine. I do that for my boyfriend. Sometimes he pays, sometimes I pay, the whole point is that someone always buys the other person dinner because we respect one another and want to make the other one feel special. Splitting checks just isn't nice. [ spacefem's advice column | Ask spacefem A Question ]
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