Question Posted Wednesday October 8 2014, 12:57 am
Okay, so I was really freaking bored and stupid and came across something called "MK Ultra" and things about mind control. I researched about it and it's really scaring me. Like, seriously. I'm still confused about it all, but what if I get it or I have it? 2 million of Americans were victims. I'm so terrified. I have really bad anxiety and depersonalization, causing me to get scared over this and think I'm being controlled by somsone. What are symptoms? What happens?! I'm so terrified.
[ Answer this question ] Want to answer more questions in the Health & Fitness category? Maybe give some free advice about: Mental health? Razhie answered Wednesday October 8 2014, 11:33 am: MKUltra was a real thing. It was a real program run by the CIA - and we actually know quite a bit about it because of the files that have been declassified and because all of the actual work was contracted out to people and institutions (like prisons and universities and independent doctors/researchers) and many of those people have came forward to talk about what it was.
It also ended in 1973. Likely, before you were born.
MKUltra was a HORRIBLE thing that the US government never should have funded or allowed. The research that was funded through it was categorically criminal and utterly immoral. It broke a bunch of laws, including the way the CIA destroyed files about it, and failed to follow proper consent laws so patients were not clearly informed about what they were participating in and why. People died, or were left with life-long disabilities, because of the horrible practice and 'research' funded by the CIA through that program.
Because it was such an obvious and awful thing, and because the CIA destroyed documents, it is a favourite of conspiracy theorists - but that program is over, and it did not affect 2 million Americans. That just nonsense. There were about 50 institutions (universities, prisons, research foundations) involved and many of them ran researches projects with less than 100 people. Because some documentation was destroyed, we'll never know for sure how many people were involved in research that was funded by the CIA through that program (it was so badly managed it's probable that the CIA never knew exactly how many people were being effected) but it was obviously nowhere near 2 million. We know how much they spent, and they didn't spend anywhere near enough money to have done research on 2 million people.
It's also important to remember that back then - in the 1950s and 1970s - this sort of research was new and the CIA wasn't the only place where people were doing it in utterly immoral ways. The idea of patient consent, especially when those patients were criminals or mentally ill, was a new concept. There were many, horrible medical practices when it came to drugs and mental health at the time.
Just because something horrible happened, does not mean it happens today. In fact, MKULTRA produced very little usable research because of how badly managed it was and frankly - because mind control and hypnosis just don't work the way they CIA wished they did! It's just not possible to control a person's mind the precise way they wanted too for espionage. Not a thing that can happen. Human beings are way more complicated - and way more functional - than the CIA wished they were. Minds just don't work like that. The idea that they would is laughable to todays scientific community.
Does the CIA probably still do some bad stuff? Yeah. They probably do.
Are you being affected by MKULTRA programs? Absolutely, 100% no. You are not.
If you are not already talking to a therapist or doctor about your anxiety, you should. Falling into internet bizzaroland is never going to be helpful for you. The internet is full of crazy people who like to scare you and spin fantasy stories.
NinjaNeer answered Wednesday October 8 2014, 11:19 am: WERE victims is the key here. The MKUltra program ended in the 70s. It is interesting to read about, but it was an unsuccessful program.
The government was experimenting in mind control for military purposes. Their techniques were questionable, and the studies involved no consent from participants. Any study done now requires full consent from the participant.
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