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Just tell me what you think and try talking to me, you won't loose anything
Um .. here is the thing, I just want people to tell me what they think and such, just help out really, I'll rate as much as you want, I don't care ...
Look my father is christine and mother is jewish, sister just doesn't give a f****
Look I'm just like you, I was born and raised in Australia (moved to egypt 5 years ago), so I know how you feel towards muslim people because I used to feel the same but i just want people to tell me what they know about islam or how they feel or do you think it's stupid and for losers or you just don't care or you think it's for strict idiots ... If you haven't guessed I'm a very very open minded person, seriously you have no idea, but I believe in islam more than anything and I can't even speak arabic well ...
You see I studied Jewish and Christianity, I read the bible a lot ...
I want whoever is interested to contact me but before you decide I'm going to list some facts:
-Do you think it's fair that muslims believe that christens and Jewish are real religion from god, but christens and jewish don't believe in muslims?
-Have you ever brought a bible from China and then Africa, then discovered some words aren't the same?
-Do you know in the Quern (Muslim's book) was written that it's more likely to sleep on the right side than the left, and then after years doctors discovered it's actually dangerous to sleep on your left because the heart is on the left?
-Do you know that whatever is written in the Quern that I read years ago is actually happening now?
-Do you know that all good comes from god and all evil comes from ourselves?
-Do you know that god allows evil to exist as a test of our free-will, and he can destroy the source of it at any time?
-Do you know that evil is an attitude of viciousness and malice, which both mean intending harm and injury to others, or even wishing upon them disasters and calamities, for unjust and iniquitous reasons? It also means vice, or sin, or what is forbidden, and these are what lead to harm to our souls, which can become evil, and this can also lead to the worst disaster, an eternity of torture in Hell (Please don't tell me you don't believe in god or hell or heaven because this planet didn't just magically appear, and no human beings until the 20 century came to discover how, seriously)
-Do you know that God created Satan also called ‘Iblis’, and ‘The Evil One’ a powerful jinn who, after serving God, became angry at the creation of the first human - Adam. This was because he did not want to accept that God had honoured humans above him, purely because Adam was created from clay and he from fire. He therefore considered himself superior to humans for an arbitrary reason, even though God in His infinite knowledge and wisdom did not consider him so, which indicates his level of pride despite being in front of God. He then openly declared his arrogant defiance and disobedience of God, and his enmity to human beings. He said that he would surely bring the descendents of Adam under his influence, making them follow him instead of serving and pleasing God? (Do you understand that this jinn exists and plays with our mind and heart every single day just because he was jealous of adam (first human being ever) does this make sense to you?)
-Do you know that our FATE is written for us but we can change it?
There is more and more, if you just try and study it, natural it all will make sense to you, and trust me you won't loose anything but you might gain a place in heaven... And if you ever see me you would never guess I'm actually religious .. Thank you for reading !
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One: Almost every Christian and Jew I have spoken too basically believes that it is 'All the same God' when it comes to Christianity, Judaism and Islam. But, just like Muslims, each person believes that their religion is the 'most right'. It's nice that the Qur'an says nice things about Christians and Jews (it also makes a lot of sense, especially since the Christians were getting pretty powerful at the time when the Qur'an was written down.)
When you say 'christens and jewish don't believe in muslims' you are committing the same crime most people commit when they think of Islam: You are listening to only the fringe and hateful members, rather then to the thousands, if not millions of moderates, who would not try to deny that Islam is a religion or take away anyone's right to believe what they wanted too, but would only say what any good Muslim would: That THIER personal religion, is the right one.
You actually say the EXACT same thing at the end of your question here: You suggest that people should read the Qur'an to gain a spot in heaven.
How is your belief that the Qur'an will help a person enter heaven different then a Christian's belief that reading the Bible will help them enter heaven? What makes one belief better then the other? Why not tell people to read the Bible, or the Torah?
Two: Did you know there were many different versions of the Arabic Qur'an in the beginning, some of which are still in existence today? Did you read in the Qur'an that Uthman is said to have burned all other versions to keep unity in the Muslim army? Did you know there is historical evidence that many of the people who actually knew Muhammad when he was alive disagreed with Uthman, and thought he choose the wrong version and refused to destroy their own? Did you know that the Qur'an had no codified punctuation in it until over 200 years after Muhammad died? There were no vowel markings to tell the reader how each vowel should sound, and because of the way Arabic is designed, changing vowel sounds can change the whole meaning of a word, so it could be interpreted in very different ways depending on what vowel sounds you selected. Different people added in the punctuation they thought was best, and created new transmissions or readings of the Qur'an.
In fact, the idea that you shouldn't translate the Qur'an into other languages didn't even arise until almost 400 years after Muhammad had died. So there were many, many different translations of the Qur'an made in the first few hundred years it existed. Obviously, those translations would result in some differences and interpretations.
That is rather similar to what happened with the Bible, and the Torah. People got together and decided what belonged, and what the best interpretation was. After a little while, Islam made a strict rule against this kind of thing, but it started off just the same way as the other holy books: Human beings wrote it down, argued about it, and changed it.
Three: Almost all doctors agree that the very safest and healthiest way to sleep is on your back, with a small pillow supporting your neck and keeping the spine straight. If you do sleep on your side, you are supposed to roll over regularly, to keep your circulation going, but that doesn't have to do with where your heart is, that's just gravity.
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How can you prove that these are facts?
Facts require proof.
Without proof, these are not facts.
That two hydrogen and one oxygen molecule can come together to create H20 (water), is a fact.
Gravity is a Fact, even though we don't understand it completely yet, we can prove how it works.
Germs are a Fact, we prove that with every new medicine we make.
What you listed here are beliefs that cannot be proven, or tested. We can't take 'God' out of a person, and see if they can still be good. You can't prove that these stories are right and the others are all wrong. You can't show me where God signed his name on every good thing about me or where these demons added all the bad. You can't tell me why the world couldn't magically just exists, but that God must have magically just made it. You can't tell me what my fate is, so how could you prove that I can change it?
I have read the Qur'an, like you I have not read an Arabic version, but I have read a translation. I've also read the Bible. I understand them just fine, but I do not believe either to be the direct truth from God.
If God sees fit to punish me eternally, because after searching the depths of my mind, after study and prayer, my own conscience and reason and free-will demand that I not lie and say I believe something that I do not, then I simply have to accept that possibility.
However, I will give you some advice, although you didn't ask for it, this is an advice site, so here it goes:
Do more research and more study. More knowledge should never be treated as an enemy to faith. If you would like to be a Muslim, that's great, but don't let people mislead you. Don't believe everything you are told. From what you have written here, I know that some of what you are being told right now, is not true. I'm sure your teachers mean well, but they are simply repeating what they believe, and no amount of their belief can change the facts, or the truth about the goodness and love in other human beings. Don't put total faith in any human being, not even yourself. We can always be wrong, and we often are. Give yourself permission to read the criticism and do a real search and examination of all sides. Read the history. Demand proof of things, and don't go around assuming the worst of people who believe differently then you do.
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