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Question Posted Tuesday April 19 2005, 2:17 pm

Hello again, Cailoisa. I wanted to personally thank you for responding to my earlier question a few days ago.
At that time, I rated you a four. I found you very insightful and compassionate. But then I thought more about the insights you had offered. I also compared your response to me with what other advice columnists had written. I soon realized I had to upgrade you to a five.
Cailoisa, your insights and suggestions were absolutely the very best advice I have ever received on my topic of concern. No other advice columnist, counselor, psychologist, or professional has ever given me such wise, sensitive, compassionate, accommodating, and human advice! You get a five--but I intend it as a 25. I think you are awesome!

Because of your flexible and wise advice, I would like to follow up with you on a question, if I may.

I'm the guy who wrote about the problem with his girlfriend having the erotic fetish of always placing her hand over my mouth in public. While I enjoy this erotic tactility in private, I was finding it awkward to deal with in public, even as she was deriving a great thrill from it.

Other advice columnists were harsh and derided me and her for the erotic fetish. No one really had a sound solution to dealing with it. Some advocated eliminating the fetish altogether, which isn't the issue. But only you were sensitive and accommodating to the fetish, and I thank you for being so flexible and open-minded.

You advocated helping her find other outlets for her hand-over-mouth fetish. That is a fantastic and excellent idea I had never thought of! You intrigue me with your insightful suggestion. I am happy you seem to want to curb or re-channel the fetish in public, to re-direct it, not eliminate it entirely.

My question: Can you suggest some ideas or ways in which she can re-focus her hand fetish so as not to be doing it so publicly? Is there a balancing compromise that will allow her to still have the handgag fetish but to do it in another form or place as an outlet for her compulsive need to do it publicly? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks for being THE VERY BEST, Cailoisa! (See ADDITIONAL INFO.)


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Additional info, added Tuesday April 19 2005, 2:37 pm:
Realizing that Lisa's compulsive need to handgag me in public for some form of personl thrill or erotic rush may need to be addressed by counseling, I would like to explore other interim solutions as well.

Cailoisa, I have asked for your ideas, since you wisely suggested channeling the fetish into other outlets. I like that advice--the best I have ever heard. Thanks for not ridiculing the fetish or treating it as a subject too weird to touch. You really did handle it with maturity and grace.

One idea that may help us is for Lisa to do her handgagging in a theater as we watch a movie. That way, she'd still be in a more or less public place. But in a darkened room, most of the moviegoers would be paying attention to the screen and not necessarily to what she is doing. For the few who do take note of her, their reactions would be more limited and subdued during a movie where they would not be wanting to interupt others' enjoyment of the film. Sill, this would allow Lisa some measure of public scrutiny to her hand over my mouth. She'd be free to express her fetish to whatever extent she wished.

Another possibility is to go to a relatively quiet, secluded place--like a library or bookstore. Again, there would be relative privacy in a public place--some possible scrutiny. Enough to satisfy Lisa's desire for public obsrvance of her handgags yet not enough to cause me open staring and embarrassment. She could find a secluded sitting area or hide behind a row of shelves to do her hand-over-mouth thing.

I appreciate your mildness,liberalism, and "with-it'-ness of recognizing that people do have erotic fetishes. You are a very modern and flexible counselor, Cailoisa. Of course, you do suggest relationship counseling and private counseling for Lisa's inability to control her public urges. I also appreciate that straightforward advice.

But any further suggestions of how to re-channel or re-direct her fetish in public would be greatly helpful. Remember, I like the erotic hand over mouth, but we need a way to keep it from being so public, yet still satisfy Lisa's urges. Thanks for being so cool!
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cailoisa answered Wednesday April 27 2005, 10:24 pm:
Thank you so much for your kind words. I've been trying to think of something that would work, but I haven't come up with anything great. I think building on your idea of allowing hand-gagging in semi-public places is a great idea. If she really likes doing it in front of people, perhaps you might find a sympathetic friend to go out with, or have over sometimes.

I've been trying to think of a "replacement" thing that she could do in very public settings. I'm sure that it would be something that keeps her hands on you, but I haven't thought of anything definate.

I do feel that she should continue this behavior, since you both seem to enjoy it. I think you're right that cutting it out entirely is not a solution.

I have some thoughts for a temporary solution. I could be wrong, but it seems to be a dominance fetish. Perhaps allowing her something subtle in public, like "leading" by a loose bracelet around your wrist. Maybe when she really feels the urge, you could sneak off to a slightly more secluded place.

If she's open about it, the two of you might be able to brainstorm what ideas might work best for you.

I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond, and I will definately keep your concern in mind. I will respond to you again if I could think of anything more helpful. I hope that you both find something that works out good for you. If you feel like you need to bounce ideas off somebody: theysayhi (at) aol.com

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