Member Since: August 7, 2012 Answers: 1038 Last Update: August 2, 2021 Visitors: 33749
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You answered my question about making a job change recently. After initially accepting the offer, I recanted and turned it down. Later that day the HR Manager left me a voicemail stating management really liked me and wanted to sweeten the offer. I called this morning. Instead of making an offer, she asked me what it would take to get me to come. I gave her a number that was 6% more than what Iwas offered, but still well within the stated salary range. She later sent an email saying she gave the proposal to management and that they were going to pursue other candidates. They didn't even make a counter offer, and said they really didn't think I wanted the job. I thought it was bizarre. (link)
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Bit bizarre indeed, but company recruitment policies can appear rather arcane to the outside observer. Plus there is often a fair bit of 'cat and mouse' play that goes on and you (or I should say 'we' meaning any applicant) cannot always be sure of what exactly are their motives and processes. As a pure guess, perhaps they were looking to negotiate terms and details of the position rather than just a bottom line salary figure. Perhaps expecting you to ask about what avenues of advancement would be available after, say a six month appraisal, for instance? A salary review based on that? They may have taken it that simply a reasonably modest salary increase showed only an interest in the cash, not the job? But it is only a guess. Also, when a firm are recruiting, it is often a very dynamic and fast-changing scene. A few applications (or even just one) can change the game in an instant. It might be an idea to keep this in mind for future exchanges with prospective employers. Questions and negotiations that suggest you are interested and ambitious and see it as a long-term engagement will tend to push the right buttons with management. More so than asking how much cash I can have...and how many days holiday do I get featuring at the top of your list. Your best bit of boxing-clever (as you might put it) is by reversing the role in your mind. If you were hiring for YOUR company, what would you like and hope for an applicant to say and ask? OK? Then tell them what you think they'll be wanting to hear!! Recruiting can look a devious process, but they are only really using all their available firepower to help make sure they hire the right person, so do not let a few seemingly bizarre outcomes put you off in any way. It doesn not mean the move or promotion WILL NOT happen. This one 'got away' and that's all. Good luck.
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Rating: 5
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Feedback Changed by DN. This user wasn't being honest with themselves, and every person who told them the truth was rated badly. You gave good advice, and so your rating has been modified, and the user has been banned for cussing out people who took the time to answer.
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Original feedback:
They told me that this job could lead to a promotion, but when I asked for specifics, such as timelines, evaluations, etc., none were given. The only sure thing is starting salary, and I have been told repeatedly to get as much up front as I can.
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