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You answered my question about making a job change recently. After initially accepting the offer, I recanted and turned it down. Later that day the HR Manager left me a voicemail stating management really liked me and wanted to sweeten the offer. I called this morning. Instead of making an offer, she asked me what it would take to get me to come. I gave her a number that was 6% more than what Iwas offered, but still well within the stated salary range. She later sent an email saying she gave the proposal to management and that they were going to pursue other candidates. They didn't even make a counter offer, and said they really didn't think I wanted the job. I thought it was bizarre. (link)
It's less bizarre than you'd think. Lol.

So... the way hiring works... I used to do all the hiring at my job, and I still act as a consult for the new hires.

First they look at your qualifications and how much you want. Based on qualifications, they decide if you're being reasonable, or how far over or under you're asking. If you're asking for an acceptable compensation for your paper qualification level, by their standards, then they make you a job offer.

What you don't often know is that while they're making that decision, they're also calculating other things... If they find you via headhunter, they add in that cost to their figures. They have to know you're worth it. They also calculate how much they're paying people in similar positions, and even related positions, because they want as little salary cost as they can manage.

So... it sounds like they liked you and you're qualified... but whatever you offered didn't fit into their figures and they think they can get similar quality for less money and hassle.

Sometimes, also, companies and hiring managers will say something like that to see if you'll drop your price. Because they want you... they just want to see exactly how cheaply they can get you.

If you think you'd be happy at the job, you can do a couple of things in response.
A, you can ask to talk to the hiring management for a real job proposal, because you'd like to work there. If they agree, you go in willing to negotiate. If they don't, that's just the end.
2, you can just call in with a lower wage. If they're interested, they should call you back fairly quickly because they'll think you're being a little desperate and want to snag you up before you discover you could make more money.
D, you can send a thank you letter. All it should say is that you thank them for the opportunity, express that you were really interested in working for them, and mention that if they're interested in you in the future to contact you.


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Feedback Changed by DN. This user wasn't being honest with themselves, and every person who told them the truth was rated badly. You gave good advice, and so your rating has been modified, and the user has been banned for cussing out people who took the time to answer.

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Original feedback:

I didn't want the job for the salary they offered because the pay didn't justify the stress of relocating and starting a new job. While I can appreciate the reasons they might have for doing what they did, they said they were willing to offer more. They should have told me what they could do rather than ask me to give them a number. When I got the email stating they were moving forward without me, I asked why they wouldn't make a counter offer. They stated they didn't think I wanted the job. Since I have a job, there is no way I would have told them I would accept the initial offer. I am not going to make a job change and two years later look to change again because I am dissatisfied with pay.




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