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Q: I really don't know how to handle my wife, how to talk to her or deal with her. We're a young married couple, I'm 26 and she's 21, been married for over a year now and been together on and off for seven.

We both want kids. She wants kids now, and I want them some day. I'm not ready to be a father, certainly not ready to be any kind of role model for anyone, and we've both got school to get through. Thing is, she'll be done with school in less than two years and I want to go to med school, which with the late start I got due to not having the money to go is going to be at least another six or seven years.

She wants to have her first kid at 25. We both know this isn't possible, but because she has the baby bug now she sees 25 as a compromise.

That's not going to happen with me. I try to avoid this conversation because that is the flat out truth, I will not be having kids with her when she is 25 and I am 30. I will still be in school, possibly med school, I will not be able to be a father during that period.

She wants a definite date, and I can't give her one. She puts it on me to answer her, and this conversation comes up about every month or two ending in a fight each time because the answer never changes. The truth is that I don't know. I'm an undergrad at a shitty community college. I don't know how long it will take to get back into a decent university via transfer, I don't know that I will get into med school the first year I apply, I don't know how things will be five years from now.

But we always come back to her point of view. "This is my priority, everything I'm doing I'm doing so we can have kids". As condescending as it probably is, I cannot take her seriously. She's 21, I'm 26 and I'm not ready to be a father, and knowing that its literally biological clock issues that keep this on her mind make it difficult for me to have any level of patience with her when she gets all over me demanding answers and timetables and making veiled threats about "maybe if our priorities are this different we need to rethink things". When I get angry at her for making empty relationship threats during irrational periods I'm the asshole. When I tell her the truth I'm the asshole. When I try to avoid the conversations entirely I'm the asshole.

I know that what she feels is real and visceral, but she knows we cannot have kids any time soon, she knows I hate her pressuring me for answers that I do not have, timetables I cannot be sure we will be able to meet.

She flat out told me it's my job to comfort her, to give her what she needs here. To me, that's unreasonable. This is a partnership, and she uses that very word against me because she has an emotional desire to have kids which in many ways outweighs the logical rational knowledge that it cannot and will not happen right now.

I'm reaching the end of my rope. She's got a billion reasons why it needs to happen as soon as possible. Every one of them is, to her, entirely valid. If I disagree with her I'm not being sensitive to her needs and feelings. If she disagrees with me her thoughts are right and mine are wrong because she's the woman and she will have to carry the thing. I mean, she's repeatedly used the "my body won't recover from the pregnancy as well if I'm older" line to justify wanting to have it sooner. She's quoting autism statistics and studies and yelling at me that the five percent increased chance of complications from 30 to 35 is something that needs to motivate me to move my ass.

She wants to see me freaking out as much as she is. Her biggest problem is that, at this point, I don't think about kids. I have too many other goals to accomplish before they are a realistic possibility, I'm fighting for us to have a cohesive life that isn't living paycheck to paycheck before kids are a desire or consideration for me. She is angry at me, I feel like, because she is a woman with hormonal urges to have kids that make her think about this daily, and I am a dude who has nothing of the sort so I am focused on our goals, the things we need to and can accomplish. She wants me to obsess about children as much as she does. She knows it isn't and won't happen, because whatever biological clock I might have is entirely overridden by logic, and it makes her mad that I don't get it and don't feel like being harassed by her because of it. I can empathize with her when she is prepared to be reasonable, but right now she is not, and I'm getting really goddamn sick of it.

Therapy is not an option (uninsured and broke) so keep that in mind and if you're under 25 you do not have the life experience to give me an opinion I will respect (no offense intended) but if you're over 25 give me a perspective, ideas, anything.

Paging Rahzie to the front.
I'm under 25, but engaged, own a house and have loads of life experience under my belt.

First off, this is something that should have been discussed BEFORE marriage. You should have had more than enough warning that she wanted children earlier than you. That's where you're at fault. You rushed into marriage without getting your life priorities sorted out with each other first. What's done is done, though, so you've got to move on from here.

Your wife is at fault because she's being incredibly childish about it. You know what? I want to have children too. I haven't finished school yet, and we're not in a stable position yet, so I'm sucking it up until then. Your wife is an adult, and she is fully capable of making a mature, reasonable decision. If she isn't, then she certainly shouldn't be having children yet. Just because she's hormonal doesn't mean she can't be mature and think of your wishes as well as her own.

Really, you should be discussing it with her. Tell her that you would love to have children too, but that it just isn't possible right now. She knew ahead of time that you wanted to go to medical school, so she can't blame you for dropping it on her. Tell her she can't threaten you into it. If you have to, stop having sex with her if you can't trust her not to sabotage birth control.

You both need to sort out your priorities, separately and together. Are you prepared to divorce if she puts children ahead of your need to go to medical school? Is she prepared to live with you giving up medical school (including your disappointment, the financial difference) in order to have what she wants now? Work together to sort out budgets for all possible options so that she can see what will work and what won't.

You also need to stop letting her bully you. You're not an asshole for being responsible. Call her bluff when she makes empty threats. Stop bowing to her rage. She's attempting to emotionally blackmail you, which is just not acceptable. Tell her that you know what she's doing and you're not going to take it.

One last suggestion: do you/can you have a pet? We got a dog, and he fulfills most of my baby urges. Just a thought... they're much less expensive and lower commitment than a baby.

I've known her for almost 9 years, been dating her for 7, and married for two this summer. Believe me, I thought we had this subject covered and I knew the angles. We didn't rush into anything, this has just in the last year become a problem and just in the last few months become a problem we actively fight over.

I'm going to push the pet idea when we can afford that. Beyond that every discussion just ends in animosity. It always comes down to her wanting a timetable and putting it on me to provide her one. That's her opinion, she feels it's correct, and she's wrong to demand that I provide her information I don't have and hold me accountable for when she gets to have kids. But that's the stance she's taking.

I don't bow, which is what starts the conflict. I get angry at her demanding deadlines and when I express that she's being unreasonable in asking and that she's being irrational in demanding answers now when she should be able to think for a second and know the variables involved mean I won't have a fixed date for years to come...

It's most frustrating for me because she's more than intelligent enough to know that it's going to be years. She's not an idiot, but she refuses to think so that the answers she doesn't want to hear come from someone other than her. Then she holds me accountable for those answers like it wasn't a mutual decision to do what we're doing that makes it years before it's a possibility.

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